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the smoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disk has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly

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our differences worldwide

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would vanish

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if we were facing an alien threat from

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outside this world

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this is fade to black it's your host

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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1985.

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you are listening to fade to flag with

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jimmy judge on the game changer network

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fade to black

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bespoke radio

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yeah man how you doing

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how you doing today's wednesday

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july 13th

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2022

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i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far and near

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer and nx networks

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racehobbs i am your host jimmy church

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what is cracking everybody tonight

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we welcome very special and one of my

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favoritest people in the world

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kelly sullivan walden is with us

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to continue our secrets week here on

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fade to black tonight it is the secret

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of dreams

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yeah

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man she's the very very best

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so stay tuned for that she'll be with us

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at the bottom of the hour tomorrow night

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is another fader night

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with open lines all night long what a

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great week on the show time travel scott

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walter tonight

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kelly's with us oh man

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so cool

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you know i i say this all the time i

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won't do it tonight uh with kelly but

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i'll share this with you now kelly glows

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she glows

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every time i see her walking down you

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know and you just like you see this

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bright ray of sunshine and you just

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looked at when you see oh right you see

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and you know and it's kelly

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it's like i don't know how she does it

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kelly gloves kelly is with us tonight

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it's going to be a great show

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and um

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a much requested show i was getting a

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lot of email

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about kelly

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and uh when are we gonna do another

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dream show with her

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and i i just didn't realize um it had

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she's been on with us but actually

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that's kind of cool because

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i've accumulated

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dreams since she was on the show with

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and not only that

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but uh i've got new skateboard wheels

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on my chair that i that i put on and my

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chair is awesome

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you want to you want to just experience

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this man it's really cool just

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it it goes i wonder now now that i've

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got skateboard wheels on my chair

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right skateboard park there's one across

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the street

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somebody pushed me into the bowl

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take hang ten to a whole another

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whole another level but yeah this would

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work

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yeah man i've got skateboard wheels on

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on the chair like skateboard wheels

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um precision bearings the whole thing

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so um yeah that

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somebody should do that

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you know you know the x-games or

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you know 500 feet in the air big long

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up the right catch some air you know in

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vegas you know jump from

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uh casino to casino

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you could stop telling me that

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you can do it on this

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all right when i was a kid this would be

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the first thing we would do out to the

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set up the ramp your buddy's pushing you

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in the chair

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no helmets no pads

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parents at work

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what's that fender faces class action

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lawsuit over cma ruling and uh what's

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that all about what's a cma

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class action lawsuit lawsuit follows

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vendors of

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two years ago uk competition

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markets authorities and at issue wow i'm

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going to check this out i wonder what

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this is about

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okay all right all right all right uh

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they paid above market value for guitars

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between 2000 oh come on really that's

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what that lawsuit's about i thought it

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was about something else

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it's fender what do you expect

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you're gonna pay over market value for

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your stuff

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that's the guitar market

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the guitar market is gnarly it's worse

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than diamonds or gold all right where am

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i at oh yeah yeah yeah yeah you know

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your parents are at work at summer

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vacation

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you put skateboard wheels on the office

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chair and you go out to the street

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that's what you do

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i think it's a great idea

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all right uh i've got a few events

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coming up

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um i will get you the details on

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everything i promised to do this by

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today but i'll do it tomorrow

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but i've got a few events coming up next

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on tuesday night august 16th i will be

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at u-pars here in los angeles in studio

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i think we have seats for about 200.

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uh it's gonna sell out uh it's on its

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way to doing that now so if you're in or

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around the los angeles area and you

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wanna come out

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uh to studio city uh for this event it's

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a it's gonna be really cool a lot of fun

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um i'll get you the information so you

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can make sure that you get uh tickets in

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time it will sell out it's just 200

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seats okay so that's coming up august

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later on this year i've got a i've got

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three four things booked right now

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two three of them are private uh i'm

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gonna be doing a private sky watch which

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i can't talk about that because it's

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uh with some other people uh maybe we'll

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see what happens uh uh during the event

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then uh i've got a film shoot i'm doing

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in two weeks

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um that's gonna be really cool i'll keep

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you posted on that

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and uh

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and then i'm going to egypt and then

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when i come back from egypt

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uh i am going to be going on

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uh a cruise

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that i believe

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is in february or march i will get all

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the information uh to you about that

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and it uh departs out of los angeles it

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uh heads down to mexico and then comes

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back to los angeles and i'll get you all

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of that so you can come and hang out

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with us on the cruise

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um and that's gonna be fantastic so i've

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got that coming up and a couple of other

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things so i will get everything to you

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probably by the end of the weekend and i

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will have everything up and posted and

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okay i will get on uh you parse uh i'll

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make sure that you have that information

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tomorrow you can just go to upars.com

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you you p a r s

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i think that's what it is upars.com all

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announced this week this is a really big

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deal

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eden pure has got their bogo special

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going on right now

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for

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their thunderstorm now i've got a bunch

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of thunderstorms i love them i was

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watching some of the posts

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throughout social media saying i got my

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thunderstorm i can't believe how great

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this it is it's absolutely amazing plug

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it in the wall it's usb it's totally

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quiet smells like

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uh

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the the the air the fresh air after a

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thunderstorm kills germs kills viruses i

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just put one in my home gym

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got rid of the uh the bo funk that was

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accumulating in there and it was uh

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erased in about 60 minutes i mean

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completely gone and you know what bo

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funk is you can't you can't ever get rid

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of that

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this did it absolutely incredible okay

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so get your thunderbird thunderbird i

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keep saying thunderbird should be called

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thunderbird thunderstorm

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uh bogo and the promo code for it right

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now this is urgent this is one week only

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right so fader bogo f-a-d-e-r-b-o-g-o

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is all you need and you get buy one get

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one free you buy five you get five free

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you know right now you know

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buy one get one free that's amazing but

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you need one for your kitchen for your

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bedroom uh you need one for your car

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uh you need one for the living room

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maybe a bathroom

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you know the private bathroom that only

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your wife will let you use you know that

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one you know things like that

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all right all right get your

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thunderstorm right now the bogo special

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is going on the links for everything all

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the breaking news or you can follow me

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overlander canada

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just posted the office chair with uh

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skateboard wheels

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did that over on twitter you can too

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at j church radio the sandboxes hashtag

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f2b

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on twitter come and hang out with us all

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right we don't bite

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big because

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politico

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is reporting

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that yesterday

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congress voted to create a secure

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government system for reporting ufos and

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to compel current and former officials

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to reveal what they might know

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about the mysterious phenomena by

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promising to protect them

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from reprisal

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the biport the bipartisan it is it is

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pork

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the bipartisan amendment to the national

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defense authorization act passed by

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voice vote without debate is part of an

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aggressive effort to exert more

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oversight over an endearing intelligence

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gathering challenge that has gained more

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attention in recent years

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it was proposed by representatives mike

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gallagher from wisconsin and ruben

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gallego out of arizona when a republican

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won a democrat who have been among a

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vocal bipartisan block of lawmakers

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pressing the pentagon and intelligence

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officials to take the issue more

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seriously

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absolutely incredible news and all of

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that went down yesterday insanity

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now uh tesla

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texas right now is overheating

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our thoughts are with everybody in texas

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but i got to tell you

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i live in palmdale and it was about a

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buck 75 here today

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so you just got to learn how to deal

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with it but

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texas is overheating and tesla

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is asking its customers in texas to

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avoid charging their electric vehicles

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during peak times in order to prevent

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over taxing the state's power grid

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the alerts came as texas grid operator

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the electric reliability council of

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texas or ercot

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is calling on residents to conserve

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electricity during the recent heat wave

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as the system is being pushed to near

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emergency conditions

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texas power grid operator

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is telling big businesses right now to

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power down as historic sky high

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temperatures descend

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upon the lone star state among those

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major operations are are you ready

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crypto mining

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that's right

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shut down crypto mining which flocked to

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texas for its inexpensive electricity

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and wide open spaces necessary for

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setting up crypto mining shops

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the electric reliability council of

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texas on monday

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did urge residents and businesses to

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conserve energy in the hottest hours of

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the day between two

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and eight pm

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now don't crypto minds i mean crypto

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mining

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that's 24 7 right

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you don't ever power down

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your computers do you

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i think crypto mines should

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uh you know they should be regulated

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solar power

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that's it you want a crypto mine

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solar power

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cool jim i'm going on a cruise with

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jimmy is that right

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are you going on that are are you going

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on that cruise

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oh man

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sarah anne sarah anne's cool do you see

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sarah anne's birthday shirt i want one

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all right so i got um i've got more news

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so i got my hellfire club shirt right

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and

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man stranger things whole fire club

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right and i'm like i can't wear that in

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that's a shirt

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you can only

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wear inside your home

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that's it you can't

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you can't wear this in public

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i don't know maybe maybe a ufo

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convention

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i don't know

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but you're not wearing this to the store

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no

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airlines in the news

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delta airlines charted an airbus a330

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jet carrying 1 000 delayed bags

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your luggage

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to deliver back to their customers the

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charter flew from london to detroit

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after their regularly scheduled flight

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was canceled

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u.s airlines

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lost damage or delayed

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about

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220

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000 pieces of luggage

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just last month

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that's right

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all of that 220 000 pieces of luggage

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in june 2022

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increase

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from 2021.

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and you gotta ask what's going wrong

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you got a charter of flight

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to carry one so where are the other

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219

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000 bags that's why i that's i want to

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know about that

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all right esa back in the news

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the european space agency announced

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today

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it has officially terminated cooperation

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with russia on a mission to put a rover

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on mars with russia's space chief

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furiously responding by banning

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cosmonauts on the iss from using a

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just intimidating

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the esa had previously suspended eyes on

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the joint exomars mission which had

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planned to use russian rockets to put

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europe's rosa linda franklin rover on

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the red planet to drill for signs of

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life

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but all this because russia decided to

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invade ukraine that's russia's fault

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esa director

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general joseph ashbacher tweeted

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yesterday

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that because of the war and resulting

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sanctions

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that continued to prevail the agency

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would officially terminate ties with

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russia

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on exomars and its landing platform

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that's it it's over

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ross cosmos dude has lost his mind too

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oh man

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and i you know i'm just going to say it

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like it is you know i'm at the age now

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58 i'm at the age 58 where i don't give

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a crap

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you know i i really don't i don't care i

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don't care about my image i don't care

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if people like me

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um

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uh i want to you know in this part of my

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life i just want to do it my way right

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regrets i've had a few but too few to

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mention and i just

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i'm just gonna do things my way i don't

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care

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and when it comes to russia

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nobody really wants to say this

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but i will

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um

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russia thinks people care

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nobody cares

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that's it you can do or say whatever you

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want nobody's going to react nobody

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cares nobody care nobody cares about you

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you went and invaded a country and

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and women and children and people are

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getting bombed for no reason

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and now you you you want people to

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to what

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you know nobody wants to invite you to

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the party anymore and i doubt i'm just

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gonna say it like it is

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i doubt not in my lifetime is is russia

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going to enjoy getting invited to a

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party

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you go and you mess up

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and you wait around for those

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invitations to come you wait for

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your answering machine to have hey man

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what are you doing friday night you want

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to come hang out with me and the guys it

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ain't gonna happen

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for a long time if ever that's it it's

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done

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nobody cares

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i mean nobody

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well rockets tomorrow's we don't need

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them we'll find our own

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they thought it was the other way around

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russia really thought that they really

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did they thought it was the other way

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around nobody gives a crap

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all right

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don't use the robotic arm we'll show

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them yeah okay let's get this show

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cracking on this day in history

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huge

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day in history

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on this day in 1985

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i remember it like it was yesterday

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glued to the tv because

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at wembley stadium in london

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prince charles and princess diana

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officially open

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live aid a worldwide rock concert

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organized to raise money for famine

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relief in africa

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and started at wembley continued at jfk

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stadium in philadelphia globally linked

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by satellite to more than 1 billion

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viewers

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in 110 nations that's right one out of

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seven people on planet earth watched

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that concert

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with more than 75 acts including

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it was just incredible to me elton john

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queen one of queen's best performances

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ever queen madonna santana run dmc

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sade

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sting bryan adams the beach boys mick

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jagger david bowie duran duran u2

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the who

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tom petty

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neil young eric clapton

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phil collins played drums in a reunion

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with led zeppelin you had black sabbath

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you had judas priests you had the

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pretenders you had the cars

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you had hollow notes you had dire

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straits you had bob dylan

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it was incredible and i watched it all i

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did it i watched everything that i could

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everything that was on my tv

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with that concert

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i watched

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non-stop it was incredible on this day

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in 1985

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fader fact

549
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now i want you to go and uh research

550
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:24,880
this

551
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,640
because

552
00:27:31,830 --> 00:27:28,559
unless you know unless you were in the

553
00:27:34,470 --> 00:27:31,840
know unless you knew you didn't know

554
00:27:35,990 --> 00:27:34,480
so here's your fader fact

555
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:36,000
nasa

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00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:39,600
planned to send astronauts to mars

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in 1981

558
00:27:46,830 --> 00:27:45,600
that's right mission was set

559
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using

560
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:50,080
nerva nuclear rockets

561
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:52,480
but congress cut nasa's funding and

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nixon canceled the nerva project

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00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:56,240
entirely

564
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in 1973.

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00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:02,080
now what was nerva n-e-r-v-a

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was

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nuclear rocket engines

568
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that was the nerva project

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and before you say to yourself well you

570
00:28:13,269 --> 00:28:11,520
know that was just that was just you

571
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:13,279
know there was a dream that was on paper

572
00:28:17,269 --> 00:28:14,559
oh no

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the nerva nuclear engines

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were done

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finished

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signed off on that's it that's it they

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fired they tested they did everything

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they did everything but

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put them on a rocket

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but they were ready to go

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and nixon canceled it you can go and

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read all about the nerva program

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n-e-r-v-a

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and check out the testing and everything

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1973

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go

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and uh the original shuttle mission all

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shuttle right sts sts was the entire

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project that they had

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for the shuttle

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and um uh

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transport tugs they called them

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to go between the earth and the moon and

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mars

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nerva rocket engines they had this whole

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thing set up and done that was the next

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phase of the moon project now if you go

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and watch for all mankind which is on

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i think it's episode six episode seven

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think about that it's it's it's

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incredible so go read about the nerva

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nuclear engines it's an incredible

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project and what was set up and it was

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ready to go but got canceled by

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president nixon all right tonight we

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welcome very special guest kelly

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sullivan walden she's with us for the

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secrets of dreams and tomorrow night

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it's going to be open lines all night

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through kelly's uh excellent work and

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months

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weeks

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worth of dreams in in just a few hours

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and it doesn't make any sense

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and so how is that possible are we

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accessing

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with dreams is it just another dimension

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is it just another reality

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and i'm starting to think that this may

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be the case lots of research in the

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dreams lots and kelly is one of the best

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we're going to be talking all of that

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going to be with us right after this

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is fader night with open lines all night

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is not

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your father's radio show

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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what's up chris what up this is jimmy

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church radio

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight one of

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my favoritest people in the world kelly

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sullivan walden is with us

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full night of the secrets of dreams

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she's an inspirational i was going to

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say international but

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she's an inspirational speaker

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develop dream mastery and the host of

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ask dr dream on unity online radio as a

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certified clinical hypnotherapist whose

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unique approach to dream therapy led

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kelley to become a trusted advisor coach

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and consultant to so many a bridge from

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the physical to the metaphysical for

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over 20 years kelly synthesizes multiple

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dream journey on a mind body spirit and

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soul level i said mine i meant to say

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her but

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it applies to me too

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now we've just posted up in the chat

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room and around social media her website

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of course which is absolutely amazing

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kelly sullivan walden.com and i would

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like to welcome back

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to fade to black and i'm going to say

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this right now and i'm embarrassed uh

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it's it's been way too long

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kelly sullivan walter kelly you're

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glowing

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ah i'm dreaming i'm so happy to be back

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with you jimmy church it's been a long

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time and it's awesome it's dreamy to be

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with you thanks for having me you know

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and there's no excuse for it you know

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you're one of our apologi guests you're

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one of my favorite people um

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thank you well yeah i mean we all know

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that but but my my deepest and humblest

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apologies

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and uh and so i'll tell everybody what

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uh what nearly happened earlier today i

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almost posted i mean uh in an email to i

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was like you know what

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let's just book once a month right now

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let's just do this for the next two

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years

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all right i'm so excited that way that

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way it won't happen again awesome

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um

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now uh i wanted to ask you this actually

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um

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uh before i asked the

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the avenue what have you been up to uh

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you know the last two years well we all

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know uh what what that's been

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uh what that's been like but uh you uh

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you were just you were out were you uh

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you're out of country were you

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vacationing or were you researching what

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were you doing just recently or over the

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last two years no over the last two

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weeks oh yeah oh my gosh

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over the last yeah for the most part

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like over covet i was

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sheltered in place and then all of a

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sudden june hit and it was just like

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um off the rails so

852
00:41:35,349 --> 00:41:08,400
i

853
00:41:37,750 --> 00:41:35,359
tomorrow

854
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,760
for the iasd conference i'll be a

855
00:41:41,510 --> 00:41:39,119
speaker that's the international

856
00:41:44,069 --> 00:41:41,520
association for the study of dreams so

857
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,079
i'll be in tucson arizona

858
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,800
and that's that's my travel agenda for

859
00:41:51,270 --> 00:41:48,400
the last month

860
00:41:53,430 --> 00:41:51,280
you know i um you know i i got email

861
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:53,440
about this in arizona and i thought man

862
00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:56,319
that sounds like so much fun

863
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,680
i mean that's that's a that's a really

864
00:42:01,589 --> 00:41:59,119
cool conference

865
00:42:05,829 --> 00:42:01,599
oh my god yeah it's dream

866
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,839
passionate people scientists shamans

867
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:07,280
artists

868
00:42:11,030 --> 00:42:09,520
of all different ages all different

869
00:42:12,790 --> 00:42:11,040
types of people literally it's an

870
00:42:14,790 --> 00:42:12,800
international conference

871
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:14,800
and they all gather from around the

872
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,040
world during this one week every year

873
00:42:20,309 --> 00:42:18,960
and this will be the first time in three

874
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:20,319
years that we've been able to meet in

875
00:42:25,349 --> 00:42:22,640
person so it's it's

876
00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,359
it's exciting it's always riveting and i

877
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:26,800
always i mean i think i know a lot

878
00:42:31,030 --> 00:42:28,640
because i've been in the dream

879
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:31,040
field and been you know an author and

880
00:42:36,150 --> 00:42:34,000
expert in dreams for 20 years but i i

881
00:42:38,230 --> 00:42:36,160
learned so much at these conferences and

882
00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:38,240
always have my mind blown and the people

883
00:42:42,630 --> 00:42:40,400
i meet and oh my god so if anybody wants

884
00:42:44,550 --> 00:42:42,640
to go at the last minute go to

885
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:44,560
as dreams

886
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,800
just jump on it it's in tucson arizona

887
00:42:53,990 --> 00:42:52,640
so what's the deal i got to call you

888
00:42:56,230 --> 00:42:54,000
doctor now

889
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,240
uh yeah you can take the quotes off of

890
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:00,790
how cool is that i'll

891
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:02,640
just remove the quotations the air

892
00:43:09,910 --> 00:43:06,000
quotes off of dr dream that's all

893
00:43:12,390 --> 00:43:09,920
agent dr walden paging dr walton

894
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,400
you are dreaming jimmy and

895
00:43:16,069 --> 00:43:13,920
okay so

896
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:16,079
what was your dissertation on let me

897
00:43:23,790 --> 00:43:17,920
okay hold on i'm going to take a wild

898
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:28,069
1965 plymouth carburetor tuning oh my

899
00:43:34,309 --> 00:43:30,079
god how did you know

900
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:34,319
you're so psychic you are crazy

901
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:37,040
well here here's the deal

902
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:38,560
you would think that my dissertation

903
00:43:41,750 --> 00:43:40,720
would be on dreams but my dissertation

904
00:43:43,829 --> 00:43:41,760
was on

905
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:43,839
what dreams have led me to and it's

906
00:43:48,150 --> 00:43:46,079
basically on about the new book that i'm

907
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,160
putting out it's it's a bit available

908
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:50,400
for pre-sale on amazon it doesn't come

909
00:43:55,430 --> 00:43:52,800
out till next january but it's called a

910
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:55,440
crisis is a terrible thing to waste

911
00:43:59,510 --> 00:43:58,400
the art of transforming the tragic into

912
00:44:01,589 --> 00:43:59,520
magic

913
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:01,599
because there's the last few years have

914
00:44:06,790 --> 00:44:04,400
been just rife with more tragic more

915
00:44:09,589 --> 00:44:06,800
tragedy more drama more pain more

916
00:44:11,829 --> 00:44:09,599
suffering than in my lifetime

917
00:44:12,710 --> 00:44:11,839
and i feel like i've been really tasked

918
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:12,720
with

919
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,200
how to how to find my way through this

920
00:44:20,390 --> 00:44:18,319
personally and then for my family and so

921
00:44:22,870 --> 00:44:20,400
many people have just been having epic

922
00:44:26,150 --> 00:44:22,880
nightmares it's been a really hard time

923
00:44:29,510 --> 00:44:26,160
for us so my focus has kind of been on

924
00:44:32,630 --> 00:44:29,520
partly how our dreams are helping us to

925
00:44:34,470 --> 00:44:32,640
survive during these times to dream

926
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,480
outside of the box to find solutions

927
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:37,280
that don't exist in the ordinary places

928
00:44:41,030 --> 00:44:39,520
but also i've discovered a formula and i

929
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:41,040
don't know if they'll there will be time

930
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:43,040
on this show but i'll i'm happy to share

931
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,520
the formula i came up with for how to

932
00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:47,359
transform nightmares

933
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:50,079
from tragic to magic and even just um

934
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,760
nightmares in our lives if we're having

935
00:44:56,230 --> 00:44:54,319
a hard day even if it's if it's

936
00:44:58,950 --> 00:44:56,240
stressful or if it's like the worst day

937
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,960
ever this simple little formula can help

938
00:45:02,550 --> 00:44:59,839
people

939
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,560
like pop through pretty quickly to that

940
00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:04,720
solution consciousness yeah we'll go

941
00:45:09,109 --> 00:45:07,599
well i just wrote it down

942
00:45:11,750 --> 00:45:09,119
we'll come back to that

943
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:11,760
okay cool now i actually

944
00:45:16,790 --> 00:45:15,520
i want to start off uh with the science

945
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,800
side of this

946
00:45:19,910 --> 00:45:18,880
oh great yeah and

947
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:19,920
and

948
00:45:23,910 --> 00:45:22,240
we can spend as much time on this as as

949
00:45:25,030 --> 00:45:23,920
you would like but

950
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,040
um

951
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:27,040
i think there's a lot here and i think

952
00:45:32,790 --> 00:45:29,119
that science

953
00:45:35,030 --> 00:45:32,800
finally is starting to uh focus on

954
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:35,040
on what consciousness may be and what

955
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:37,680
dreams may be and and certainly other

956
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:40,319
dimensions and and the possibilities of

957
00:45:43,990 --> 00:45:41,440
this thing

958
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:44,000
uh going in that direction and i really

959
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:45,200
feel

960
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:48,000
that finally it is happening but it's

961
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:50,000
certainly long overdue

962
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:52,880
but here's here's here's my point

963
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:54,640
i had this weird

964
00:45:59,030 --> 00:45:57,760
revelation i woke up after a crazy night

965
00:46:02,390 --> 00:45:59,040
of fun dreams

966
00:46:04,309 --> 00:46:02,400
okay and and i said this is about a

967
00:46:07,109 --> 00:46:04,319
month ago and it was so profound to me

968
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:07,119
that i came right on the show that night

969
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,440
and and spoke about it

970
00:46:12,870 --> 00:46:10,800
and uh

971
00:46:15,430 --> 00:46:12,880
of course i reach out to kelly i do i

972
00:46:17,109 --> 00:46:15,440
need help she's like i'm in the jungle

973
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:17,119
man

974
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:19,839
i know oh my god i barely have one dot

975
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,400
of self-service yeah i'm eating a mango

976
00:46:26,069 --> 00:46:23,920
off a tree

977
00:46:29,430 --> 00:46:26,079
i'll try to help yeah church it'll have

978
00:46:31,270 --> 00:46:29,440
to wait um but anyway um

979
00:46:31,990 --> 00:46:31,280
is is this

980
00:46:35,630 --> 00:46:32,000
i

981
00:46:39,030 --> 00:46:35,640
that our

982
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,040
dreams if we get a red let's say dream

983
00:46:45,270 --> 00:46:41,760
state not dreams but the dream state

984
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,280
is not inside of our head

985
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:47,200
i think that

986
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:49,760
it is a timeless

987
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:52,240
uh without time i don't think it's

988
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,000
time-based because i think we're we are

989
00:47:01,910 --> 00:46:58,079
entering um

990
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,920
another reality that is not this one

991
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,839
and we just think that

992
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,359
so i had this profound thing and i just

993
00:47:10,230 --> 00:47:07,520
sat there and thought about it

994
00:47:12,309 --> 00:47:10,240
and and i wrote it down and i ended up

995
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:12,319
speaking about it on the show

996
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,520
so i wanted to ask you about that is is

997
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:17,440
it is it not

998
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:21,680
in our heads are we maybe transporting

999
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,800
into another dimension and experiencing

1000
00:47:28,309 --> 00:47:25,680
that

1001
00:47:30,630 --> 00:47:28,319
and and we call it dreams but it may

1002
00:47:32,790 --> 00:47:30,640
could it be something else entirely

1003
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:32,800
oh wow jimmy i love that we're starting

1004
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,000
right here so i would say this

1005
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,480
from this isn't something that any

1006
00:47:43,430 --> 00:47:40,800
scientist necessarily in a laboratory

1007
00:47:46,230 --> 00:47:43,440
would say this is more of a metaphysical

1008
00:47:47,910 --> 00:47:46,240
perspective i mean i think scientists

1009
00:47:51,030 --> 00:47:47,920
are mostly focused on what's going on

1010
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,040
inside the brain all those things that

1011
00:47:56,549 --> 00:47:52,640
can be

1012
00:47:59,190 --> 00:47:56,559
measured and quantified which is fine

1013
00:48:00,950 --> 00:47:59,200
but really it's it's it's

1014
00:48:03,109 --> 00:48:00,960
it's kind of just

1015
00:48:04,470 --> 00:48:03,119
arithmetic compared to

1016
00:48:06,950 --> 00:48:04,480
the things that you're talking about

1017
00:48:09,829 --> 00:48:06,960
about what goes on beyond our brain

1018
00:48:12,549 --> 00:48:09,839
beyond i mean we know from i mean i know

1019
00:48:14,870 --> 00:48:12,559
personally from having had a per um

1020
00:48:17,030 --> 00:48:14,880
a near-death experience and so many

1021
00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:17,040
people i'm sure you've heard that you

1022
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:19,920
know daniel brinkley and evan alexander

1023
00:48:24,549 --> 00:48:23,200
and and um there's so many anita marjani

1024
00:48:27,750 --> 00:48:24,559
that have had

1025
00:48:29,349 --> 00:48:27,760
major death experiences that that

1026
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:29,359
discovered that they were still

1027
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:31,040
conscious even when their bodies shut

1028
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,400
down even when their

1029
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,280
brain had absolutely they had flatlined

1030
00:48:39,510 --> 00:48:37,440
and yet they were still aware of

1031
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:39,520
themselves so in it i think there is a

1032
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:42,800
very very strong corollary between

1033
00:48:48,390 --> 00:48:46,160
near-death experiences and dreams

1034
00:48:50,790 --> 00:48:48,400
and i know that for myself because i had

1035
00:48:52,309 --> 00:48:50,800
my near-death experience in 2008 which i

1036
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:52,319
write about in my new book it's one of

1037
00:48:56,230 --> 00:48:54,720
the first stories in a crisis is a

1038
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:56,240
terrible thing to waste

1039
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:57,280
um

1040
00:49:01,589 --> 00:48:59,839
and i came out of that and that night i

1041
00:49:03,349 --> 00:49:01,599
went to sleep i woke up the next morning

1042
00:49:05,910 --> 00:49:03,359
and i was like dana

1043
00:49:08,069 --> 00:49:05,920
it's the same thing dying and dreaming

1044
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:08,079
is is the same thing

1045
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,440
the the diff it's like in in a death

1046
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:13,599
we are gone from our bodies we just

1047
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:14,880
don't come back

1048
00:49:18,549 --> 00:49:16,559
but in dreams

1049
00:49:21,190 --> 00:49:18,559
we go out and then we do come back it's

1050
00:49:21,829 --> 00:49:21,200
like the door isn't isn't shut it's like

1051
00:49:27,190 --> 00:49:21,839
a

1052
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:27,200
it's it's just it's more fluid but it's

1053
00:49:31,589 --> 00:49:29,440
but we go into a similar realm and

1054
00:49:33,990 --> 00:49:31,599
because i'm a vivid dreamer i've been

1055
00:49:36,870 --> 00:49:34,000
tracking dreams i've tracked thousands

1056
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:36,880
of my own dreams over over my lifetime

1057
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:37,680
and

1058
00:49:41,030 --> 00:49:39,680
i noticed this is this is very similar

1059
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:41,040
it was more

1060
00:49:44,069 --> 00:49:42,160
um

1061
00:49:47,030 --> 00:49:44,079
it was more of a what could be compared

1062
00:49:48,549 --> 00:49:47,040
to a lucid dream a lucid dream is where

1063
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,559
you know you're dreaming while you're

1064
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:50,480
dreaming and then you can sort of direct

1065
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:53,440
it or you can have some conscious level

1066
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,200
input so that's what having a death

1067
00:50:00,150 --> 00:49:57,200
experience was like and basically just

1068
00:50:02,069 --> 00:50:00,160
as you were saying jimmy we go beyond

1069
00:50:04,069 --> 00:50:02,079
not just beyond our minds not just

1070
00:50:06,870 --> 00:50:04,079
beyond our bodies but we go beyond our

1071
00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,880
circumstances beyond what we have ever

1072
00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:09,119
read beyond what we have any right to

1073
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:11,200
know based on our

1074
00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:14,400
life experience in this reality we step

1075
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,160
into a realm

1076
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,319
of that is that is truly infinite it's

1077
00:50:22,390 --> 00:50:21,200
like the ceiling is lifted and

1078
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:22,400
all

1079
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:24,720
of everything that's available in what

1080
00:50:30,630 --> 00:50:27,119
we could call the akashic records

1081
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,640
the the hall of of knowing of like all

1082
00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:32,880
of that is available to us do we absorb

1083
00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,720
all of that every night absolutely not

1084
00:50:39,270 --> 00:50:36,480
we might just tiptoe

1085
00:50:42,390 --> 00:50:39,280
an inch in that direction but some of us

1086
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,400
catapult way deep into

1087
00:50:46,630 --> 00:50:44,400
quantum information that is that is life

1088
00:50:49,190 --> 00:50:46,640
changing to me the

1089
00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:49,200
the idea for all of us just to kind of

1090
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:51,200
bring it down to earth and down to brass

1091
00:50:55,109 --> 00:50:52,640
tacks is

1092
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:55,119
all we have to do is just

1093
00:50:58,630 --> 00:50:56,800
take five minutes in the morning when we

1094
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,640
wake up and just remember the simplest

1095
00:51:03,030 --> 00:51:00,160
parts of our dream as much as we can

1096
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,040
remember and know that we're it's it

1097
00:51:08,390 --> 00:51:04,960
contains the stuff

1098
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,400
of infinity it's like that little dream

1099
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:10,240
snippet that we remember

1100
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:13,040
is encoded with something so much larger

1101
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:16,240
than our ordinary reality and it's worth

1102
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:17,920
tracking even if it doesn't make sense

1103
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,359
to us initially

1104
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,359
it's like we don't have to understand

1105
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,680
what it means in order to be transformed

1106
00:51:27,829 --> 00:51:26,000
by it so i'm going off on a tangent here

1107
00:51:29,510 --> 00:51:27,839
but no that's answering your question at

1108
00:51:33,270 --> 00:51:29,520
all well

1109
00:51:37,109 --> 00:51:33,280
that's excellent and which actually uh

1110
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:37,119
forces me into asking this next question

1111
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:38,480
do we

1112
00:51:42,230 --> 00:51:40,160
because of that

1113
00:51:45,589 --> 00:51:42,240
do we

1114
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:45,599
dream about our own experiences

1115
00:51:48,710 --> 00:51:46,640
our own

1116
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:48,720
things that we enjoy

1117
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:50,480
or do we

1118
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:54,640
dream outside of our own reality and

1119
00:51:58,069 --> 00:51:55,920
what you know

1120
00:52:01,109 --> 00:51:58,079
if you like cats so you dream about cats

1121
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:01,119
right whatever it may be i i i dream

1122
00:52:05,950 --> 00:52:04,559
about guitars right or you know i i

1123
00:52:07,589 --> 00:52:05,960
i will be lying

1124
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:07,599
[Music]

1125
00:52:14,069 --> 00:52:11,280
but i have i i do have dreams that that

1126
00:52:15,030 --> 00:52:14,079
really have nothing to do with my daily

1127
00:52:16,710 --> 00:52:15,040
life

1128
00:52:19,030 --> 00:52:16,720
and if that's the case what is what does

1129
00:52:21,990 --> 00:52:19,040
that tell us if we dream outside of our

1130
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:23,750
oh my gosh there's so many things in

1131
00:52:28,549 --> 00:52:26,160
what you just brought up so let me just

1132
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:28,559
i'll try to track this

1133
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:31,040
we dream about what we're passionate

1134
00:52:33,510 --> 00:52:32,559
about what we're excited about that's

1135
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:33,520
one

1136
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:34,880
level to our dream so if you're

1137
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:36,640
passionate about guitars those will show

1138
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:38,160
up if you're passionate about cats

1139
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:40,400
they'll show up if you're scared

1140
00:52:45,589 --> 00:52:43,680
of the dark if you're scared of owls i'm

1141
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:45,599
looking at an owl right now actually

1142
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:48,079
outside my window and it's not a real

1143
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:49,200
owl

1144
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:50,880
it's like if you're scared like whatever

1145
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:53,760
your whatever gets your blood pumping

1146
00:52:59,190 --> 00:52:56,400
will tend to be the stuff that fills up

1147
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:59,200
your will be the contents of your your

1148
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:00,640
dream theater

1149
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:02,240
um at night

1150
00:53:09,190 --> 00:53:03,599
so

1151
00:53:11,190 --> 00:53:09,200
cornerstones but the things that all

1152
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:11,200
that also come in it's like i i like to

1153
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:12,000
think

1154
00:53:16,630 --> 00:53:13,680
who's dreaming us

1155
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:16,640
like is there a dream maker is it god is

1156
00:53:21,589 --> 00:53:19,520
it our higher selves is it

1157
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:21,599
is it aliens is it like

1158
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:23,520
what is it that's dreaming us because

1159
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:25,119
we're not

1160
00:53:29,190 --> 00:53:27,280
in conscious control

1161
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:29,200
in our dreams and even when we're lucid

1162
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:32,160
dreaming we just have a modicum of

1163
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,760
control we

1164
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:35,839
most of us even the best lucid dreamers

1165
00:53:39,349 --> 00:53:38,400
i know don't completely steer the ship

1166
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:39,359
when they're dreaming so there's

1167
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:40,319
something

1168
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,720
else and i think this becomes a

1169
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:45,040
philosophical conversation this becomes

1170
00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:47,440
a metaphysical conversation it depends

1171
00:53:52,630 --> 00:53:48,720
on what your

1172
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,640
your belief is i i i would call it god

1173
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:55,200
and but i'm not attached to that label

1174
00:53:59,349 --> 00:53:57,119
and i don't put that on people i say you

1175
00:54:01,910 --> 00:53:59,359
have to identify that there's something

1176
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:01,920
higher something more intelligent

1177
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:05,680
than our ordinary self that is

1178
00:54:09,829 --> 00:54:08,079
that what i like to call the dream maker

1179
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:09,839
and i believe that dream maker is

1180
00:54:15,270 --> 00:54:12,559
benevolent ultimately even if the dreams

1181
00:54:17,670 --> 00:54:15,280
we're having are difficult and stressful

1182
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:17,680
and painful and we can talk all about

1183
00:54:21,750 --> 00:54:19,440
what i believe the purpose of those kind

1184
00:54:23,030 --> 00:54:21,760
of dreams are but i believe that it's as

1185
00:54:24,630 --> 00:54:23,040
it's as if our

1186
00:54:27,190 --> 00:54:24,640
this dream maker this higher

1187
00:54:29,910 --> 00:54:27,200
intelligence has an agenda for us has

1188
00:54:32,549 --> 00:54:29,920
our curriculum for our life

1189
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:32,559
in hand and lets us know when we're on

1190
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:35,040
course and when we're off course gives

1191
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:37,119
us a sense of what baggage we need to

1192
00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:39,599
drop because we're filled with scar

1193
00:54:44,230 --> 00:54:42,079
tissue and ptsd and it's it's just

1194
00:54:46,549 --> 00:54:44,240
weighing us down it's time to drop it

1195
00:54:48,150 --> 00:54:46,559
and it's also giving us an excitement

1196
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:48,160
about like a preview of coming

1197
00:54:53,589 --> 00:54:51,119
attractions like should we stay

1198
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,599
on course it's like there's a reward

1199
00:54:58,390 --> 00:54:55,280
ahead so that's where some of those wish

1200
00:55:01,510 --> 00:54:58,400
fulfillment happy winning the lottery

1201
00:55:03,589 --> 00:55:01,520
great sex you know dancing with unicorns

1202
00:55:05,990 --> 00:55:03,599
or elvis or god whatever it is that gets

1203
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,000
you like wow that was the best stream

1204
00:55:10,309 --> 00:55:08,559
or all of the above right right right

1205
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:10,319
those are like rewards telling us that

1206
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:11,760
we're on track so

1207
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:15,839
having sex with elvis on a unicorn

1208
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:26,950
is the luckiest person in the world

1209
00:55:30,789 --> 00:55:29,040
somebody that dreams about winning the

1210
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:30,799
lottery and they do and they win it

1211
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:32,559
twice or

1212
00:55:39,589 --> 00:55:36,559
is it somebody named dana

1213
00:55:46,950 --> 00:55:39,599
ah you are the cutest person jimmy

1214
00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:49,349
man in the much and a cool and a cool

1215
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:51,680
guy too

1216
00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,079
but is you said though something very

1217
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:55,599
interesting i'm not gonna let this get

1218
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:58,880
away okay if you're afraid of the dark

1219
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:01,440
yeah you're gonna dream about the dark

1220
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,680
oh my god right

1221
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,760
absolutely i mean

1222
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:07,520
that's not right

1223
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:09,760
but it is because we've all we've all

1224
00:56:12,069 --> 00:56:11,359
had that experience

1225
00:56:14,309 --> 00:56:12,079
and

1226
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:14,319
well but here's the thing you said

1227
00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,440
something else so this goes together if

1228
00:56:21,109 --> 00:56:19,839
you're if you can control your dreams

1229
00:56:23,589 --> 00:56:21,119
somewhat

1230
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:23,599
you can't steer the ship completely

1231
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:26,000
throughout the whole journey but you can

1232
00:56:32,309 --> 00:56:29,200
start the ship in a certain direction

1233
00:56:34,150 --> 00:56:32,319
so if you're having issues with the dark

1234
00:56:35,990 --> 00:56:34,160
can you start off your dream not

1235
00:56:37,510 --> 00:56:36,000
dreaming about the dark and then hope

1236
00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:37,520
for the best

1237
00:56:41,270 --> 00:56:39,599
my suggestion like let's just say that

1238
00:56:43,750 --> 00:56:41,280
you're dreaming about the thing that

1239
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,760
scares you most um for example we're

1240
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:46,079
coming out of covid and there's there's

1241
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,760
a lot of scientific research in fact

1242
00:56:52,069 --> 00:56:49,920
this scientist

1243
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:52,079
from harvard will be speaking at the

1244
00:56:56,470 --> 00:56:54,000
international association for the study

1245
00:56:59,349 --> 00:56:56,480
of dreams the iasd conference coming up

1246
00:57:01,349 --> 00:56:59,359
this week about all of these coveted

1247
00:57:03,990 --> 00:57:01,359
dreams that they've tracked thousands

1248
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,000
and thousands of them and it seems that

1249
00:57:08,789 --> 00:57:06,240
we dream about the things that scare us

1250
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:08,799
not just to torture us but in order to

1251
00:57:12,549 --> 00:57:11,359
find a breakthrough in order to figure

1252
00:57:15,270 --> 00:57:12,559
out how

1253
00:57:16,710 --> 00:57:15,280
to how to wrestle with it how to come

1254
00:57:19,270 --> 00:57:16,720
out victorious

1255
00:57:21,190 --> 00:57:19,280
so i mean one way of looking at

1256
00:57:22,230 --> 00:57:21,200
nightmares is that they're helping us to

1257
00:57:23,990 --> 00:57:22,240
adapt

1258
00:57:26,390 --> 00:57:24,000
to like so if

1259
00:57:28,789 --> 00:57:26,400
if we're afraid of the dark and the dark

1260
00:57:31,589 --> 00:57:28,799
exists i mean hello fade to black you

1261
00:57:33,190 --> 00:57:31,599
know there's this

1262
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,200
it's like it's a part of i mean what

1263
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:35,359
you've done jimmy it's like you

1264
00:57:37,910 --> 00:57:36,240
you

1265
00:57:39,430 --> 00:57:37,920
fade to black is about kind of i mean

1266
00:57:41,990 --> 00:57:39,440
it's sort of like honoring the

1267
00:57:44,150 --> 00:57:42,000
mysterious things that go on in the dark

1268
00:57:47,109 --> 00:57:44,160
there is a it's like you're you're

1269
00:57:50,309 --> 00:57:47,119
embracing it and having a show that's

1270
00:57:53,270 --> 00:57:50,319
got levity and and and and clarity and

1271
00:57:55,430 --> 00:57:53,280
like fun and excitement within the dark

1272
00:57:58,069 --> 00:57:55,440
it's like this is what we're meant to do

1273
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,079
i'm sure when you were a little tiny boy

1274
00:58:01,910 --> 00:57:59,760
you didn't you didn't pop out of the

1275
00:58:04,230 --> 00:58:01,920
womb and say i want to have a show

1276
00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:04,240
called fade to black i mean all of us is

1277
00:58:08,950 --> 00:58:06,640
i mean i was i i'm known as the

1278
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:08,960
nightmare whisperer do you think i ever

1279
00:58:13,510 --> 00:58:11,599
wanted that dubious title i was like a

1280
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:13,520
disney princess little girl like i

1281
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,559
wanted happy fluffy sparkly things but i

1282
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:18,880
had to learn how to embrace those things

1283
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:21,359
that scare me because once you embrace

1284
00:58:26,150 --> 00:58:23,440
them they stop scaring you and you

1285
00:58:28,950 --> 00:58:26,160
realize there's there's gifts in that

1286
00:58:31,270 --> 00:58:28,960
dark place and and it only makes us

1287
00:58:32,950 --> 00:58:31,280
better it's like everything i believe

1288
00:58:35,109 --> 00:58:32,960
everything is god everything is

1289
00:58:37,109 --> 00:58:35,119
ultimately good even if it's

1290
00:58:39,349 --> 00:58:37,119
very dense and even if it's a little

1291
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:39,359
rough and funky around the edges once we

1292
00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:42,079
embrace it i always say that the way to

1293
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:45,520
one one of my alchemy formulas is i call

1294
00:58:52,789 --> 00:58:48,720
it fear formula it's it's to face what

1295
00:58:54,549 --> 00:58:52,799
scares us f-e-a-r face it embrace it ace

1296
00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:54,559
it and replace it

1297
00:59:00,230 --> 00:58:58,160
i like that i like that a lot i uh uh

1298
00:59:01,910 --> 00:59:00,240
i used to you and i have talked about

1299
00:59:05,349 --> 00:59:01,920
this many times but

1300
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,359
um i used to love nightmares right right

1301
00:59:11,430 --> 00:59:07,599
you know the entertainment value of that

1302
00:59:12,710 --> 00:59:11,440
is is right and you might as well

1303
00:59:14,309 --> 00:59:12,720
if you're going to have them you might

1304
00:59:16,309 --> 00:59:14,319
as well love them because

1305
00:59:18,630 --> 00:59:16,319
right right right no seriously and then

1306
00:59:20,870 --> 00:59:18,640
but they stopped and

1307
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,880
uh they stopped that's what happens when

1308
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,280
you love it they stop doing this thing

1309
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:25,440
that scares you and chases you that's

1310
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,680
exactly it all my work in a nutshell

1311
00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:29,040
right there you just nailed it we're

1312
00:59:40,710 --> 00:59:37,910
about two months ago right oh okay um um

1313
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,720
i'm having now the nightmare and i'm

1314
00:59:44,829 --> 00:59:43,440
vivid man i remember all of it uh some

1315
00:59:48,470 --> 00:59:44,839
big black

1316
00:59:50,230 --> 00:59:48,480
thing was in my house and specifically

1317
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:50,240
in my bedroom that was the dream oh my

1318
00:59:54,870 --> 00:59:53,440
god i was dreaming that i was hiding my

1319
00:59:57,430 --> 00:59:54,880
face

1320
01:00:00,710 --> 00:59:57,440
with my covers from

1321
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:00,720
this thing that i knew was in my room

1322
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:04,480
frightening is all right and i wake up

1323
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:07,200
just like this i wake up

1324
01:00:11,190 --> 01:00:09,520
oh man you know what i'm looking around

1325
01:00:12,789 --> 01:00:11,200
i'm like okay

1326
01:00:14,470 --> 01:00:12,799
i'm not going back to sleep and i

1327
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:14,480
remember i looked back and looked down

1328
01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:17,760
it's like 4 30 in the morning and i mean

1329
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:20,960
big rough tough jimmy church right

1330
01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:22,319
oh no

1331
01:00:26,829 --> 01:00:24,240
wuss

1332
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:26,839
i need to make some coffee i can't do

1333
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:29,200
this i can't go back to sleep they think

1334
01:00:32,789 --> 01:00:30,960
happy thoughts think happy thoughts

1335
01:00:36,710 --> 01:00:32,799
think happy thoughts you know it was

1336
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:36,720
like it was not and i used to enjoy that

1337
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:40,079
and i i woke up like in panic mode as a

1338
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,280
matter of fact kelly um i woke up i was

1339
01:00:47,349 --> 01:00:45,520
dreaming about my head and covered up

1340
01:00:49,030 --> 01:00:47,359
when i opened my i had i had the

1341
01:00:51,270 --> 01:00:49,040
blankets over my head

1342
01:00:54,470 --> 01:00:51,280
yeah yeah for real for real

1343
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:57,109
why why wasn't that fun for me

1344
01:01:01,910 --> 01:01:00,319
well okay first of all let me just say

1345
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,920
you're not a wuss

1346
01:01:06,230 --> 01:01:03,680
if you're in if you are having a

1347
01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:06,240
nightmare and you don't feel that you're

1348
01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:07,599
equipped

1349
01:01:17,589 --> 01:01:08,400
to

1350
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,599
that's not being a wuss so you wake up

1351
01:01:21,670 --> 01:01:19,599
you get some coffee you become you

1352
01:01:23,829 --> 01:01:21,680
become awake and then you talk about it

1353
01:01:25,670 --> 01:01:23,839
with somebody like me so that you can

1354
01:01:27,829 --> 01:01:25,680
develop a strategy should that dream

1355
01:01:29,510 --> 01:01:27,839
come back again and even if it doesn't

1356
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:29,520
come back into your dream it's still in

1357
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:31,359
your consciousness it's now right now

1358
01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:34,880
it's unresolved it's the the hindus call

1359
01:01:40,549 --> 01:01:38,400
it samskara it's like there's this scar

1360
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,559
in your consciousness from where this

1361
01:01:45,829 --> 01:01:43,280
fear is and the the goal of life is to

1362
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:45,839
rid yourself of these some scars is to

1363
01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:47,599
is to talk about it and figure out how

1364
01:01:51,910 --> 01:01:50,000
to dissolve it in one way for example i

1365
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:51,920
mean i've got a dream interpretation

1366
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:54,000
formula i'd love to run by you so

1367
01:01:57,589 --> 01:01:55,200
actually we should do that do you want

1368
01:01:59,349 --> 01:01:57,599
me to do that we can

1369
01:02:02,150 --> 01:01:59,359
do it right after the break let's get

1370
01:02:04,470 --> 01:02:02,160
that in at is perfect timing nice segue

1371
01:02:06,710 --> 01:02:04,480
you've done this before i see

1372
01:02:09,349 --> 01:02:06,720
this is faith black kelly sullivan

1373
01:02:11,670 --> 01:02:09,359
walden is with us tonight it is the

1374
01:02:13,750 --> 01:02:11,680
secrets of dreams i am your host jimmy

1375
01:02:18,910 --> 01:02:13,760
church more with kelly after this short

1376
01:02:45,349 --> 01:02:24,470
[Music]

1377
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:47,510
this is fade to black with jimmy church

1378
01:02:52,549 --> 01:02:51,010
on the game changer radio network

1379
01:02:54,950 --> 01:02:52,559
[Music]

1380
01:02:58,390 --> 01:02:54,960
your 1 million gigawatt paranormal

1381
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,400
powerhouse kumx db

1382
01:03:01,829 --> 01:03:00,000
the x

1383
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:01,839
right now eden pier is having their

1384
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:04,160
famous bogo deal on thunderstorm air

1385
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:06,799
purifiers one listener wrote it makes a

1386
01:03:11,589 --> 01:03:08,960
huge difference in our cat litter box

1387
01:03:14,950 --> 01:03:11,599
stink i just wish i waited for the bogo

1388
01:03:18,230 --> 01:03:14,960
deal i need another one well now's the

1389
01:03:20,710 --> 01:03:18,240
time bogo is back so when you buy one

1390
01:03:22,950 --> 01:03:20,720
thunderstorm you get one free no matter

1391
01:03:25,589 --> 01:03:22,960
how many you buy you buy two you get two

1392
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:25,599
free you buy five you get five free the

1393
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:27,680
thunderstorm will completely eliminate

1394
01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:29,920
any odor even the worst like pets

1395
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:32,720
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welcome back fade to black i am your

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host jimmy church tonight our guest

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kelly sullivan walden

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and uh tonight we're talking about the

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secrets of dreams and i'm waiting for

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kelly

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uh to to come back into the green room

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um one of the things i wanted to share

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this with everybody um

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uh

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this one of the things um

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uh

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that

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somebody wants to tell me about their

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dreams or

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or if if i

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uh you know catch myself telling

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somebody are are are our dreams

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interesting

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to other people or are they just

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singularly

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interesting to us and

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and i you know and it's a it's a it's a

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thing that kelly i i um

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i'm i'm almost reticent to do because

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sometimes

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uh i get i i tune out when i hear

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somebody talk about their dreams because

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they think the next great screenplay

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it wasn't as epic as mine

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right

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and and sometimes i get i get caught in

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that

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and now

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and this is an example i'm gonna give

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you one right now okay um i dream a lot

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i've never said this on the air because

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i don't like it because i know it's

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boring to most people but i doubt it but

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01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,799
i dream about

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shopping malls

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and

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in the end that's awesome yeah endlessly

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stuck and lost

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in shopping malls and and then there's

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an extension of that

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um casinos and hotels in las vegas

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01:09:38,630 --> 01:09:34,799
same thing

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endlessly lost stuck walking around

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and and

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that's not

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and to me they're the most epic

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this could be a movie

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no it couldn't

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it's it's it really sucks church

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but

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i they they are fun and i have them all

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the time and i don't know what it means

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oh my heavens okay let's talk about this

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so

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first of all

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not everybody is interested in dreams

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so there's that you know there's it's

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like people have to have

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the ears to hear them and to understand

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that you're they're about to hear

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something that's a little bizarre a

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little bit strange but there's gold in

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it so not everybody knows that but even

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for those who are in the dream world

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01:10:30,950 --> 01:10:28,880
it's it seems that dream sharing is kind

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of an art it's like you want to get

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right to the point i created this thing

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called the jet set dream interpretation

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01:10:39,510 --> 01:10:36,800
formula that i'd love to share with you

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01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:39,520
it's a way to share your dream so that

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it takes it from being abstract to being

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something grounded and relatable because

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i think the part of a dream

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most of the time that is that's hard to

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hear and that where people glaze over is

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01:10:54,709 --> 01:10:52,880
when it gets too abstract it doesn't

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feel like it makes any sense it's kind

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01:10:58,390 --> 01:10:56,800
of like speaking a foreign language

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people just don't really understand it

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01:11:02,550 --> 01:11:00,800
so after two seconds they're like

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bye-bye

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but if you can ground it then all of a

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sudden people get they start to relate

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01:11:10,149 --> 01:11:09,120
to it they start to see the ah they

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start to

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have the aha moment with you

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01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:14,560
and that's the idea because

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from one perspective we could say that

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dreams are the language of the soul

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and according to paulo coelho who wrote

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the book the alchemist

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this one person when they're connected

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01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:28,560
to their soul they're connected to the

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soul of the world

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so if you can share your dream in such a

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way that it touches it gets into the

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01:11:39,350 --> 01:11:36,960
center of your soul then all of a sudden

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it becomes interesting and it becomes

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01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:41,520
something relevant for everybody does

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01:11:47,669 --> 01:11:45,040
that make sense yes it does okay so

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01:11:49,030 --> 01:11:47,679
so here's the so i call it jet set and

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01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:49,040
because it's like

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01:11:52,390 --> 01:11:50,880
the idea is that we want to interpret

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01:11:54,149 --> 01:11:52,400
our dreams we want to talk about dreams

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01:11:56,229 --> 01:11:54,159
in a way that is exciting just like

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01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:56,239
being on a jet we want to be flying we

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01:12:02,229 --> 01:11:59,840
want it to be exciting so j e t s e t

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01:12:03,669 --> 01:12:02,239
and j stands for just the facts ma'am

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01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:03,679
and you're really good at that jimmy

1591
01:12:08,070 --> 01:12:05,199
like you said okay shopping malls

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01:12:09,750 --> 01:12:08,080
casinos and hotels like i'm walking

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01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:09,760
through and it's exciting so that was

1594
01:12:14,390 --> 01:12:11,920
like a perfect way to share and even the

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01:12:16,630 --> 01:12:14,400
big black blob dream you talked about

1596
01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:16,640
that in a very succinct way so that's

1597
01:12:22,149 --> 01:12:19,040
perfect the next step is the e which is

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01:12:23,430 --> 01:12:22,159
the emotion or the energy of the dream

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01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,440
what did it feel like and you did that

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01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:25,440
you said it was exciting and then with

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01:12:28,950 --> 01:12:27,920
the blob it was terrifying so that was

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01:12:31,830 --> 01:12:28,960
perfect

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01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:31,840
the t is for the title give it as if it

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01:12:37,189 --> 01:12:34,880
were a movie what's the title of this

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01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:37,199
dream and the interesting thing is even

1606
01:12:40,870 --> 01:12:38,800
if you don't don't spend any time

1607
01:12:42,790 --> 01:12:40,880
thinking about it just write down or

1608
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:42,800
blurt out the thing that comes to you so

1609
01:12:46,390 --> 01:12:44,640
so give me the title of your do you want

1610
01:12:48,229 --> 01:12:46,400
to focus on the shopping dream or the

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01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,239
blob dream first

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01:12:51,189 --> 01:12:50,400
let's go yeah let's not do nightmares

1613
01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:51,199
yet

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01:12:55,830 --> 01:12:53,760
okay okay so shopping so give me so

1615
01:12:56,709 --> 01:12:55,840
think of one of those dreams

1616
01:13:02,630 --> 01:12:56,719
okay

1617
01:13:03,510 --> 01:13:02,640
had it um again

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01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:03,520
um

1619
01:13:10,390 --> 01:13:05,760
okay so you want a title a title is if

1620
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:10,400
it were a movie uh is if it were a movie

1621
01:13:15,590 --> 01:13:12,800
i would call it

1622
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:17,350
never-ending

1623
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:20,080
ending i would see that movie i would

1624
01:13:24,790 --> 01:13:22,239
totally see that and is there a subtitle

1625
01:13:26,870 --> 01:13:24,800
sometimes in the title there's a like a

1626
01:13:29,189 --> 01:13:26,880
a deeper description

1627
01:13:31,510 --> 01:13:29,199
see if you

1628
01:13:36,630 --> 01:13:31,520
yeah oh man yeah

1629
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:38,390
hey and you could even do the voiceover

1630
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:41,040
for your own movie trailer that's great

1631
01:13:46,149 --> 01:13:43,920
but but you know because and i think

1632
01:13:49,110 --> 01:13:46,159
this happens with a lot of people i

1633
01:13:50,709 --> 01:13:49,120
certainly can't be the only one where

1634
01:13:54,870 --> 01:13:50,719
they repeat

1635
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:54,880
are different it's a different day it's

1636
01:14:00,149 --> 01:13:57,280
a different whatever right different

1637
01:14:02,709 --> 01:14:00,159
experience but it's still

1638
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,719
lost in a shopping mall okay yeah

1639
01:14:06,070 --> 01:14:04,719
oh i like lost in a shopping mall too

1640
01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:06,080
that's a good title

1641
01:14:15,189 --> 01:14:12,630
that's netflix

1642
01:14:16,310 --> 01:14:15,199
right coming to a theater near you

1643
01:14:17,910 --> 01:14:16,320
okay

1644
01:14:20,709 --> 01:14:17,920
all right so we've got jay just the

1645
01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:20,719
facts e the energy or the emotion t for

1646
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:24,560
the title s is for the standout symbols

1647
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:27,040
so um and we can come back to this and

1648
01:14:31,669 --> 01:14:28,400
i'll just i'll just run through it

1649
01:14:33,110 --> 01:14:31,679
actually i have a standout symbol okay

1650
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,120
this is another part okay i hope

1651
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:35,440
everybody does find this interesting

1652
01:14:39,669 --> 01:14:36,400
um

1653
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,679
the the key to these dreams

1654
01:14:45,669 --> 01:14:41,440
are

1655
01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:45,679
secret doors that nobody knows about oh

1656
01:14:51,990 --> 01:14:49,280
that are shortcuts for me to get through

1657
01:14:55,189 --> 01:14:52,000
the mall or the casino

1658
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:55,199
oh wow yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

1659
01:14:57,750 --> 01:14:56,880
secret doors

1660
01:14:59,590 --> 01:14:57,760
ooh

1661
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:59,600
and i don't know i i i don't know maybe

1662
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:01,120
we'll get this all figured out by the

1663
01:15:05,510 --> 01:15:03,520
end of the show i think we will i think

1664
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:05,520
we'll at least get one layer of it i

1665
01:15:08,950 --> 01:15:07,679
mean i think dreams can actually be

1666
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,960
endlessly

1667
01:15:14,070 --> 01:15:11,360
complex but we can we could spend a a

1668
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:14,080
lifetime decoding one dream and never

1669
01:15:18,229 --> 01:15:16,000
get to the bottom of it but we can at

1670
01:15:19,990 --> 01:15:18,239
least make some progress okay so the

1671
01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:20,000
standout symbols i always say to at

1672
01:15:23,750 --> 01:15:21,679
least identify

1673
01:15:25,910 --> 01:15:23,760
two or three but you know some of the

1674
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:25,920
epic dreams there's 25 but i say just

1675
01:15:29,990 --> 01:15:28,080
narrow it down to like two or three just

1676
01:15:31,590 --> 01:15:30,000
because so that you can you can move on

1677
01:15:33,669 --> 01:15:31,600
because remember we're being in the jet

1678
01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:33,679
set we're trying to be light about it

1679
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:36,560
and then the e the next e is for

1680
01:15:41,590 --> 01:15:39,120
enlighten it's a big word and most

1681
01:15:44,070 --> 01:15:41,600
people are like what what's enlightened

1682
01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:44,080
but i it's it's it's one word that

1683
01:15:47,669 --> 01:15:46,080
symbolizes a lot like from the

1684
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:47,679
perspective that your dream is always

1685
01:15:50,870 --> 01:15:49,360
trying to give you a gift it's trying to

1686
01:15:53,030 --> 01:15:50,880
make you better it's trying to teach you

1687
01:15:54,870 --> 01:15:53,040
something it's trying to educate you so

1688
01:15:57,030 --> 01:15:54,880
the word enlightened so you you ask

1689
01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:57,040
yourself how might this dream be trying

1690
01:16:01,270 --> 01:15:59,679
to enlighten me and then the last and

1691
01:16:03,270 --> 01:16:01,280
then we'll so we'll let's see do you

1692
01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:03,280
have a question do you have a an answer

1693
01:16:07,830 --> 01:16:04,960
to that

1694
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:07,840
my my wheels are turning so let's let's

1695
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:10,800
i've got i'm writing it down okay

1696
01:16:14,229 --> 01:16:12,560
i'll explore it with you and i'll and

1697
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,239
i'll share what what i'm what i'm

1698
01:16:18,470 --> 01:16:16,239
percolating if it were my dream so the

1699
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:18,480
last the last t is take it to the

1700
01:16:23,189 --> 01:16:20,560
streets so once you've gone through the

1701
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:23,199
formula it's like it's now it's time to

1702
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:26,159
do something in the physical your waking

1703
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:28,080
dream from the perspective that we're

1704
01:16:31,350 --> 01:16:29,920
always dreaming there's just two

1705
01:16:32,870 --> 01:16:31,360
different kinds of dreams there's the

1706
01:16:34,310 --> 01:16:32,880
nighttime sleeping dream and then

1707
01:16:37,430 --> 01:16:34,320
there's the waking dream that we're in

1708
01:16:40,630 --> 01:16:37,440
right now and the idea is to create this

1709
01:16:42,390 --> 01:16:40,640
connectedness this this um through line

1710
01:16:44,470 --> 01:16:42,400
between your nighttime dream and your

1711
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:44,480
waking reality so is there something to

1712
01:16:48,470 --> 01:16:46,960
do like for example once you've once

1713
01:16:50,870 --> 01:16:48,480
you've identified how this dream's

1714
01:16:52,870 --> 01:16:50,880
trying to enlighten you for example

1715
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:52,880
if it were my dream may i do do i have

1716
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,080
permission to

1717
01:16:57,510 --> 01:16:55,679
go let's go

1718
01:16:59,110 --> 01:16:57,520
so in some way because i've also had

1719
01:17:01,110 --> 01:16:59,120
dreams similar to this where there's

1720
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:01,120
these secret passageways and i'm trying

1721
01:17:06,709 --> 01:17:03,760
to get through and find my way and it

1722
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:06,719
feels kind of like life i mean life is a

1723
01:17:12,950 --> 01:17:10,320
series of being in these public places

1724
01:17:15,430 --> 01:17:12,960
and sometimes like trying to figure out

1725
01:17:17,750 --> 01:17:15,440
how what's the best way to make it

1726
01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,760
through my life path my hero's journey

1727
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:19,760
is taking me in this way and i'm trying

1728
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:22,239
to figure out the most efficient path

1729
01:17:26,310 --> 01:17:23,920
the best one for me and maybe i don't

1730
01:17:28,870 --> 01:17:26,320
want to go through all the ordinary

1731
01:17:30,630 --> 01:17:28,880
gridlock i see all these lines and all

1732
01:17:33,350 --> 01:17:30,640
this stuckness and i'm like i think i

1733
01:17:35,110 --> 01:17:33,360
wanna oh look at this secret passageway

1734
01:17:37,189 --> 01:17:35,120
it's kind of like

1735
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:37,199
we think that we are

1736
01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:39,120
are this but really there's all these

1737
01:17:43,030 --> 01:17:41,040
secret passageways so many people

1738
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:43,040
actually have dreams where they find

1739
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:46,560
secret rooms and houses in um in their

1740
01:17:51,350 --> 01:17:48,719
office at work or whatever it's because

1741
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:51,360
it's it's it's a symbol of ourselves

1742
01:17:55,510 --> 01:17:52,560
that mall

1743
01:17:58,070 --> 01:17:55,520
that that um casino is is ourselves

1744
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:58,080
there's secret doors to ourselves we

1745
01:18:01,750 --> 01:18:00,239
only know a certain amount about

1746
01:18:04,310 --> 01:18:01,760
ourselves but they're these secret

1747
01:18:07,830 --> 01:18:04,320
passageways and if it's kind of like

1748
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:07,840
being connected to our our more um on

1749
01:18:13,430 --> 01:18:10,560
the edge consciousness it leads us

1750
01:18:15,669 --> 01:18:13,440
through and out like we don't have to

1751
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:15,679
suffer like henry david thoreau said

1752
01:18:21,910 --> 01:18:18,480
that most men lead lives of quiet

1753
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:21,920
desperation and that's kind of the life

1754
01:18:26,390 --> 01:18:24,560
in the trudge of them all the ordinary

1755
01:18:29,270 --> 01:18:26,400
shocking consciousness but if we're

1756
01:18:32,709 --> 01:18:29,280
finding a pathway out of the casino or

1757
01:18:36,470 --> 01:18:32,719
out of that that hotel it's like we're

1758
01:18:38,950 --> 01:18:36,480
finding a way out of the ordinary sludge

1759
01:18:41,030 --> 01:18:38,960
so that we can maybe find a way to joy

1760
01:18:43,510 --> 01:18:41,040
to expansive

1761
01:18:44,790 --> 01:18:43,520
consciousness so there's there's i feel

1762
01:18:47,350 --> 01:18:44,800
like all of these things are a

1763
01:18:50,149 --> 01:18:47,360
commentary about about who you are jimmy

1764
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,159
and also as as anybody reflects it it

1765
01:18:53,830 --> 01:18:51,840
says more about themselves than it is

1766
01:18:55,430 --> 01:18:53,840
about anybody else so i'm not trying to

1767
01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:55,440
tell you definitively what your dream

1768
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:57,440
means but no but

1769
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:00,000
and let me jump in yeah please

1770
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:03,840
even though it applies to me directly

1771
01:19:09,110 --> 01:19:06,320
yeah the universal thing that would

1772
01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:09,120
apply to anybody

1773
01:19:12,390 --> 01:19:11,440
and you said it well because throw when

1774
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:12,400
when

1775
01:19:19,669 --> 01:19:17,280
um and i thought about that too as well

1776
01:19:21,510 --> 01:19:19,679
i'm very familiar with the quote and the

1777
01:19:23,830 --> 01:19:21,520
thing is this

1778
01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:23,840
everybody

1779
01:19:28,149 --> 01:19:25,920
male or female it doesn't matter

1780
01:19:31,350 --> 01:19:28,159
what you see here

1781
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:31,360
exactly is is is is is is a

1782
01:19:35,430 --> 01:19:32,880
representative

1783
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:35,440
exactly right that's not that's what's

1784
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:38,560
going on back here is the most complex

1785
01:19:41,910 --> 01:19:41,120
thing about their life

1786
01:19:44,470 --> 01:19:41,920
and

1787
01:19:46,870 --> 01:19:44,480
how crazy it is but you you meet this

1788
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:46,880
person hey how you doing but

1789
01:19:50,870 --> 01:19:49,360
they are dealing with

1790
01:19:56,149 --> 01:19:50,880
the day

1791
01:19:59,030 --> 01:19:56,159
how complex life life really is

1792
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:59,040
and that would apply right back to what

1793
01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:00,800
you're suggesting here

1794
01:20:05,350 --> 01:20:03,040
we are always seeking those doors and

1795
01:20:08,470 --> 01:20:05,360
we're always seeking those answers and

1796
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:08,480
maybe a shortcut or two right right and

1797
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:10,320
i think it might also be giving that to

1798
01:20:13,669 --> 01:20:11,840
you there was a friend of mine that i

1799
01:20:15,590 --> 01:20:13,679
remember him sharing with me having

1800
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:15,600
dreams similar to this and they were all

1801
01:20:19,270 --> 01:20:17,600
the time and he's and he noticed like

1802
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:19,280
this is one thing you can do with a

1803
01:20:23,990 --> 01:20:22,400
recurring dream is think of it like it's

1804
01:20:27,430 --> 01:20:24,000
it's in stair steps it's always

1805
01:20:28,790 --> 01:20:27,440
progressing it's never exactly a carbon

1806
01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:28,800
copy of what happened before there's

1807
01:20:33,430 --> 01:20:30,960
always a little twist a little something

1808
01:20:36,070 --> 01:20:33,440
else because you're moving you're you're

1809
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,080
evolving you're becoming closer and

1810
01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:38,480
finally this friend of mine found his

1811
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:42,080
way out like out of this maze of of

1812
01:20:46,229 --> 01:20:44,000
whatever it was inside sort of a factory

1813
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:46,239
of sorts and he found his way out and he

1814
01:20:52,149 --> 01:20:49,840
noticed that it corresponded to that day

1815
01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:52,159
in his waking life he had been

1816
01:20:55,430 --> 01:20:53,520
struggling with all kinds of things and

1817
01:20:58,070 --> 01:20:55,440
he had this great solution this great

1818
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:58,080
breakthrough for his business that like

1819
01:21:01,910 --> 01:21:00,320
changed everything so really it's like

1820
01:21:03,910 --> 01:21:01,920
the things that we're grappling with and

1821
01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:03,920
struggling with and trying to figure out

1822
01:21:08,229 --> 01:21:05,840
there's a there's a purpose to it it's

1823
01:21:11,270 --> 01:21:08,239
like how we grow and then eventually

1824
01:21:13,669 --> 01:21:11,280
once we have that that aha moment it all

1825
01:21:15,350 --> 01:21:13,679
starts to make sense so i imagine that

1826
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:15,360
you finding this path i mean it's kind

1827
01:21:17,990 --> 01:21:16,719
of like your show

1828
01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:18,000
on your show

1829
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:20,320
you're you interview people and you and

1830
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:22,639
you share from your own experience sort

1831
01:21:27,430 --> 01:21:24,880
of how you find your way

1832
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:27,440
through the darkness and into like this

1833
01:21:30,550 --> 01:21:29,360
more expansive place and out of the

1834
01:21:32,950 --> 01:21:30,560
ordinary

1835
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,960
like i don't know gridlock into into

1836
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:35,679
something else it's it's it's so now at

1837
01:21:39,990 --> 01:21:37,679
this moment it's starting to seem clear

1838
01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:40,000
also i was just gonna say that's the

1839
01:21:43,430 --> 01:21:42,480
enlightenment right there yeah

1840
01:21:46,629 --> 01:21:43,440
right

1841
01:21:48,709 --> 01:21:46,639
exactly and if you can remember like i

1842
01:21:50,550 --> 01:21:48,719
think there's a feeling tone

1843
01:21:52,950 --> 01:21:50,560
like when you all of a sudden discover

1844
01:21:54,870 --> 01:21:52,960
that secret door

1845
01:21:57,270 --> 01:21:54,880
it's kind of this like this this

1846
01:21:59,750 --> 01:21:57,280
wonderful energy it's different like

1847
01:22:01,590 --> 01:21:59,760
there's a very distinct energy to from

1848
01:22:03,430 --> 01:22:01,600
the like kind of the struggle of how am

1849
01:22:05,270 --> 01:22:03,440
i going to get through this and ah

1850
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:05,280
there's all these people and i'm a

1851
01:22:09,189 --> 01:22:06,800
little got a little anxiety and then all

1852
01:22:11,750 --> 01:22:09,199
of a sudden oh there's this path

1853
01:22:14,470 --> 01:22:11,760
it feels really good to me this is the

1854
01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:14,480
piece that is worth meditating on that

1855
01:22:19,590 --> 01:22:17,679
that feeling tone if we if we meditate

1856
01:22:21,910 --> 01:22:19,600
on that energy then i think it

1857
01:22:24,629 --> 01:22:21,920
correlates to the enlightenment piece

1858
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,639
because if we if we tap into that part

1859
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:26,560
of ourselves like the dream isn't over

1860
01:22:31,350 --> 01:22:28,639
just because you wake up right now you

1861
01:22:33,669 --> 01:22:31,360
can feel that ah that release that aha

1862
01:22:36,390 --> 01:22:33,679
moment and that will actually help to

1863
01:22:38,629 --> 01:22:36,400
connect you more quickly to finding that

1864
01:22:40,950 --> 01:22:38,639
aha moment in your waking life

1865
01:22:43,350 --> 01:22:40,960
regarding whatever this um

1866
01:22:46,790 --> 01:22:43,360
this is it's pointing towards something

1867
01:22:49,590 --> 01:22:46,800
and you're right right and now okay so

1868
01:22:52,149 --> 01:22:49,600
in order to do that

1869
01:22:53,590 --> 01:22:52,159
don't you have to have your dreams

1870
01:22:56,950 --> 01:22:53,600
resolve

1871
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:56,960
no

1872
01:23:03,750 --> 01:23:01,440
resolved at night i mean it's

1873
01:23:05,750 --> 01:23:03,760
in it's the best when that happens god

1874
01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:05,760
it feels great when you do find your way

1875
01:23:09,030 --> 01:23:07,520
but you can there's some there's there's

1876
01:23:11,350 --> 01:23:09,040
something i call

1877
01:23:13,910 --> 01:23:11,360
um dream reentry

1878
01:23:15,030 --> 01:23:13,920
that can help you progress the dream so

1879
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:15,040
for example

1880
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:16,800
if you wake up

1881
01:23:22,709 --> 01:23:20,159
from a dream at all less than satisfied

1882
01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,719
less than fulfilled less than yay like i

1883
01:23:26,390 --> 01:23:24,159
didn't quite get to the top of the

1884
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:26,400
mountain or i didn't quite kiss the girl

1885
01:23:30,709 --> 01:23:28,560
or i didn't quite get that get the check

1886
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:30,719
or whatever it is you have to do every

1887
01:23:34,870 --> 01:23:33,040
dream that's everything that's every

1888
01:23:36,470 --> 01:23:34,880
dream okay

1889
01:23:38,950 --> 01:23:36,480
that's every dream

1890
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:38,960
dreams don't resolve themselves well i

1891
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,040
want to discuss this deeper when we come

1892
01:23:45,590 --> 01:23:43,120
back after the break i just rudely

1893
01:23:49,189 --> 01:23:45,600
interrupted you please continue no no no

1894
01:23:51,830 --> 01:23:49,199
we'll talk about it after the break

1895
01:23:52,950 --> 01:23:51,840
well in that um

1896
01:23:55,030 --> 01:23:52,960
is it

1897
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:55,040
so it's not strange

1898
01:23:59,189 --> 01:23:57,600
i'm not only one that dreams don't have

1899
01:24:01,830 --> 01:23:59,199
an ending

1900
01:24:03,350 --> 01:24:01,840
no no my suggestion though is that

1901
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:03,360
because the dream isn't over just

1902
01:24:07,270 --> 01:24:05,920
because you wake up in your life so when

1903
01:24:09,189 --> 01:24:07,280
you wake up in the morning write down

1904
01:24:12,310 --> 01:24:09,199
your dreams so that you've grounded it

1905
01:24:14,790 --> 01:24:12,320
in reality and then meditate on if you

1906
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:14,800
were back in that dream and you were

1907
01:24:19,830 --> 01:24:17,760
lucid and you had some control what

1908
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,840
would you do what would be the next step

1909
01:24:23,830 --> 01:24:21,760
so imagine that you can actually finish

1910
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:23,840
it in your waking state sometimes you

1911
01:24:27,350 --> 01:24:25,920
want to go you can go back inside the

1912
01:24:28,790 --> 01:24:27,360
dream while you're sleeping and pick it

1913
01:24:30,470 --> 01:24:28,800
up where it leaves off but that

1914
01:24:32,629 --> 01:24:30,480
sometimes doesn't happen but because

1915
01:24:35,110 --> 01:24:32,639
you've still got this cliffhanger that

1916
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,120
you're carrying around with you

1917
01:24:38,870 --> 01:24:36,880
there's it's a there's a very fancy

1918
01:24:41,430 --> 01:24:38,880
harvard study they call it imagery

1919
01:24:42,390 --> 01:24:41,440
rehearsal therapy ird

1920
01:24:46,550 --> 01:24:42,400
um

1921
01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:46,560
irt sorry and in irt it's it's something

1922
01:24:50,070 --> 01:24:48,400
so basic i've been i had been doing it

1923
01:24:51,990 --> 01:24:50,080
for 20 years before i found out that

1924
01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:52,000
harvard had been doing this but it's

1925
01:24:56,149 --> 01:24:53,840
where you simply finish the dream with

1926
01:24:57,830 --> 01:24:56,159
your own imagination you write the

1927
01:25:00,470 --> 01:24:57,840
script the way you wished your dream

1928
01:25:02,229 --> 01:25:00,480
would have ended and in many ways you

1929
01:25:04,310 --> 01:25:02,239
progress the dream so the next time you

1930
01:25:07,270 --> 01:25:04,320
go back in that recurring dream it picks

1931
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:07,280
up 10 steps further ahead than it was

1932
01:25:11,430 --> 01:25:08,880
where you left off when you actually

1933
01:25:13,350 --> 01:25:11,440
woke up from that dream well okay and

1934
01:25:16,310 --> 01:25:13,360
then so many

1935
01:25:18,470 --> 01:25:16,320
uh so many dreams are based on that

1936
01:25:19,590 --> 01:25:18,480
but the journey

1937
01:25:23,750 --> 01:25:19,600
is

1938
01:25:26,629 --> 01:25:23,760
that doesn't completely doesn't complete

1939
01:25:28,950 --> 01:25:26,639
that doesn't that's the entire dream

1940
01:25:30,629 --> 01:25:28,960
of of trying to

1941
01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:30,639
maybe it's in the shopping mall and i'm

1942
01:25:35,910 --> 01:25:33,679
trying to buy a purse for whatever it is

1943
01:25:38,470 --> 01:25:35,920
and i and i don't get to do that or

1944
01:25:39,590 --> 01:25:38,480
whatever whatever it is in anybody's

1945
01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:39,600
dream

1946
01:25:44,310 --> 01:25:42,480
it's one experience after another that

1947
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:44,320
you go through during the dream this

1948
01:25:49,189 --> 01:25:45,440
journey

1949
01:25:50,709 --> 01:25:49,199
and it never happens right it doesn't

1950
01:25:52,790 --> 01:25:50,719
get there and then you wake up in the

1951
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:52,800
morning and you gotta go to work and

1952
01:25:57,669 --> 01:25:55,199
certainly nothing has resolved if

1953
01:25:59,110 --> 01:25:57,679
there's a there's a little trick that

1954
01:26:01,110 --> 01:25:59,120
that we can all do and i don't know if

1955
01:26:03,669 --> 01:26:01,120
you want to save this for the other side

1956
01:26:06,870 --> 01:26:03,679
of the break but there is this sort of a

1957
01:26:09,910 --> 01:26:06,880
sneaky shortcut that i found to be so

1958
01:26:10,709 --> 01:26:09,920
powerful to help us finish the dream and

1959
01:26:13,030 --> 01:26:10,719
feel

1960
01:26:14,709 --> 01:26:13,040
um a sense of resolution

1961
01:26:17,910 --> 01:26:14,719
okay i'm writing that down for after the

1962
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:17,920
break ending the dream shortcut that's

1963
01:26:20,870 --> 01:26:19,920
what i just wrote down

1964
01:26:23,910 --> 01:26:20,880
and

1965
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:23,920
okay before we get to the break

1966
01:26:28,870 --> 01:26:26,320
um i wanted to ask you this i did a

1967
01:26:31,669 --> 01:26:28,880
fader fact

1968
01:26:35,270 --> 01:26:31,679
a couple of weeks ago maybe a month ago

1969
01:26:38,310 --> 01:26:35,280
um that i got so much email on

1970
01:26:39,350 --> 01:26:38,320
and it was this now i wrote this as a

1971
01:26:40,709 --> 01:26:39,360
fact

1972
01:26:43,910 --> 01:26:40,719
okay okay

1973
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:43,920
um and i did the research and and it was

1974
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:45,920
vetted but i was shocked

1975
01:26:48,870 --> 01:26:46,960
that

1976
01:26:50,790 --> 01:26:48,880
you cannot

1977
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:50,800
read

1978
01:26:54,709 --> 01:26:53,120
in a dream

1979
01:26:56,070 --> 01:26:54,719
is that true

1980
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,080
um

1981
01:27:00,229 --> 01:26:58,560
yes and no i think

1982
01:27:01,350 --> 01:27:00,239
like i know it's fine

1983
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:01,360
there's a

1984
01:27:06,310 --> 01:27:02,880
you're not going to read a sign on the

1985
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:06,320
wall you're not going to read directly

1986
01:27:10,870 --> 01:27:07,600
you're not going to read a note you

1987
01:27:12,310 --> 01:27:10,880
cannot read during a dream

1988
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:12,320
and i would

1989
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,400
i i've never read in a dream i had to go

1990
01:27:19,669 --> 01:27:17,040
back i would say i would say it would be

1991
01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:19,679
really difficult to read more than a

1992
01:27:26,070 --> 01:27:23,199
sentence or a few words but i've there's

1993
01:27:28,149 --> 01:27:26,080
there's definitely been a number of

1994
01:27:30,229 --> 01:27:28,159
people i don't know i don't i mean i

1995
01:27:33,510 --> 01:27:30,239
want to say probably at least 20 that i

1996
01:27:35,750 --> 01:27:33,520
know of that have had like a printout

1997
01:27:38,870 --> 01:27:35,760
like a text message or some kind of a

1998
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:38,880
billboard or some kind of a sign

1999
01:27:44,790 --> 01:27:42,480
that is in in english it's printed out

2000
01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:44,800
and it's a message and like i mean

2001
01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:46,800
whether it's just one word or a few

2002
01:27:50,070 --> 01:27:48,480
words and that doesn't mean that the the

2003
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:50,080
letters don't jumble

2004
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:51,840
soon thereafter just like looking at a

2005
01:27:57,270 --> 01:27:54,800
clock often the numbers do that so yes

2006
01:27:59,030 --> 01:27:57,280
you are correct it is it's very i would

2007
01:28:01,590 --> 01:27:59,040
say it's difficult

2008
01:28:04,149 --> 01:28:01,600
to read it's difficult and it's one way

2009
01:28:06,470 --> 01:28:04,159
to check if you're dreaming to see if if

2010
01:28:08,310 --> 01:28:06,480
it's hard to read then that's a message

2011
01:28:10,390 --> 01:28:08,320
oh my god i'm dreaming or you look at

2012
01:28:12,709 --> 01:28:10,400
the clock and the numbers bounce around

2013
01:28:14,550 --> 01:28:12,719
right like okay i'm dreaming

2014
01:28:16,629 --> 01:28:14,560
because that's more typically the way

2015
01:28:18,390 --> 01:28:16,639
it's not typical but it does happen

2016
01:28:19,750 --> 01:28:18,400
sometimes where there is this

2017
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:19,760
this imprint

2018
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:23,199
of like a tattoo a message and when that

2019
01:28:28,149 --> 01:28:25,280
happens it's very special and i believe

2020
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:28,159
it's something to pay deep attention to

2021
01:28:32,790 --> 01:28:30,320
and i've got an example of one of those

2022
01:28:34,470 --> 01:28:32,800
from my experience that was pretty

2023
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:34,480
life-changing actually

2024
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:36,159
wow what was it

2025
01:28:40,790 --> 01:28:38,320
are you saying that you have read

2026
01:28:44,709 --> 01:28:40,800
before there was a word that was that

2027
01:28:46,629 --> 01:28:44,719
was it was the it was the word um mosaic

2028
01:28:48,790 --> 01:28:46,639
and it's so that's not a word that is an

2029
01:28:50,390 --> 01:28:48,800
ordinary part of my vocabulary i've

2030
01:28:52,709 --> 01:28:50,400
probably used the word a handful of

2031
01:28:54,790 --> 01:28:52,719
times in my whole life right but

2032
01:28:56,950 --> 01:28:54,800
it was the night before

2033
01:28:58,790 --> 01:28:56,960
i was to have a session

2034
01:29:01,030 --> 01:28:58,800
with a woman

2035
01:29:02,550 --> 01:29:01,040
that had lost her son

2036
01:29:04,629 --> 01:29:02,560
and i was

2037
01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:04,639
i was kind of freaking out because i'm

2038
01:29:09,030 --> 01:29:07,440
not a grief counselor i mean i'm a dream

2039
01:29:10,310 --> 01:29:09,040
expert and i'm a cat i'm a spiritual

2040
01:29:11,430 --> 01:29:10,320
counselor but i

2041
01:29:13,189 --> 01:29:11,440
so i was

2042
01:29:15,430 --> 01:29:13,199
i i felt like oh my god i'm out of my

2043
01:29:17,030 --> 01:29:15,440
depth i'm how am i gonna

2044
01:29:20,229 --> 01:29:17,040
help this woman

2045
01:29:22,550 --> 01:29:20,239
and i asked the dream maker i asked god

2046
01:29:24,550 --> 01:29:22,560
whatever give me a dream to help me with

2047
01:29:26,709 --> 01:29:24,560
her and all i could remember from the

2048
01:29:29,430 --> 01:29:26,719
whole night was just the word mosaic it

2049
01:29:31,270 --> 01:29:29,440
was spelled out m-o-s-a-i-c

2050
01:29:33,030 --> 01:29:31,280
and i wrote it down over and over and

2051
01:29:35,110 --> 01:29:33,040
over in my in my journal trying to make

2052
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:35,120
sense of it and nothing came to me but

2053
01:29:39,110 --> 01:29:37,120
in the session i had with her

2054
01:29:41,430 --> 01:29:39,120
i just mostly let her do the talking

2055
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,440
where she expressed how how

2056
01:29:45,750 --> 01:29:43,199
grief-stricken she had been and how

2057
01:29:48,229 --> 01:29:45,760
painful the and how hard it was to be at

2058
01:29:49,830 --> 01:29:48,239
the funeral and um but she was talking

2059
01:29:51,350 --> 01:29:49,840
about how there was so many flowers so

2060
01:29:54,070 --> 01:29:51,360
many people like hundreds of people

2061
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:54,080
turned out for her her son brian's

2062
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:55,840
funeral and she said but the most

2063
01:29:58,629 --> 01:29:57,199
important thing

2064
01:30:00,870 --> 01:29:58,639
the most important gift that she

2065
01:30:04,709 --> 01:30:00,880
received was this mosaic

2066
01:30:06,790 --> 01:30:04,719
it was a big giant poster

2067
01:30:09,910 --> 01:30:06,800
picture of her son's face that was

2068
01:30:12,310 --> 01:30:09,920
comprised of these tiny mosaic of

2069
01:30:13,430 --> 01:30:12,320
smaller pictures of him throughout his

2070
01:30:14,950 --> 01:30:13,440
whole life

2071
01:30:17,510 --> 01:30:14,960
and she said that she had been looking

2072
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,520
at it during our whole session

2073
01:30:20,870 --> 01:30:19,120
this mosaic

2074
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:20,880
and i was like

2075
01:30:26,629 --> 01:30:24,709
yeah

2076
01:30:28,790 --> 01:30:26,639
right right so that was

2077
01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:28,800
you're the dream expert what do you do

2078
01:30:33,590 --> 01:30:31,840
with that so i i burst into tears and

2079
01:30:36,550 --> 01:30:33,600
she first i told her about it it was

2080
01:30:37,990 --> 01:30:36,560
like it was like a it was a phenomenon

2081
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:38,000
because i

2082
01:30:42,310 --> 01:30:40,880
had no connection to mosaic and i didn't

2083
01:30:44,870 --> 01:30:42,320
know it was almost the end of the

2084
01:30:47,590 --> 01:30:44,880
session with her when she expressed this

2085
01:30:49,910 --> 01:30:47,600
and it felt like brian was communicating

2086
01:30:52,310 --> 01:30:49,920
in some way like as if to say

2087
01:30:55,110 --> 01:30:52,320
i'm i'm i'm still with you i'm on the

2088
01:30:58,629 --> 01:30:55,120
other side i'm connected it felt like it

2089
01:31:00,790 --> 01:30:58,639
was this wave of of blessing of magic

2090
01:31:02,629 --> 01:31:00,800
amid the tragic i write about this story

2091
01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:02,639
in detail in my book and here's the

2092
01:31:08,229 --> 01:31:03,600
little

2093
01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:08,239
this whole thing so not only was it a

2094
01:31:11,830 --> 01:31:10,159
blessing for her and then she shared

2095
01:31:14,790 --> 01:31:11,840
that with the family and everybody felt

2096
01:31:16,709 --> 01:31:14,800
the light kind of the miracle of that

2097
01:31:18,629 --> 01:31:16,719
but right after i got off the phone with

2098
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:18,639
her on the session i got a phone call

2099
01:31:21,750 --> 01:31:19,920
from my mother

2100
01:31:25,030 --> 01:31:21,760
who was telling me about how her and my

2101
01:31:27,590 --> 01:31:25,040
dad were moving from the suburbs of

2102
01:31:30,709 --> 01:31:27,600
whittier which is this sweet little town

2103
01:31:32,310 --> 01:31:30,719
to they were going to move to los

2104
01:31:34,470 --> 01:31:32,320
angeles they wanted to be part of like

2105
01:31:37,270 --> 01:31:34,480
the thriving commerce and i'm like you

2106
01:31:41,189 --> 01:31:37,280
guys are retirees what are you doing

2107
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:41,199
that's crazy whittier to l.a it's yes to

2108
01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:44,320
downtown downtown l.a i'm like no no no

2109
01:31:49,669 --> 01:31:47,920
no you want to go to whittier exactly no

2110
01:31:50,870 --> 01:31:49,679
don't do it i'm i'm freaking out i won't

2111
01:31:52,950 --> 01:31:50,880
be able to handle it she said we found

2112
01:31:54,229 --> 01:31:52,960
this really cute place it's called the

2113
01:31:55,189 --> 01:31:54,239
mosaic

2114
01:31:56,629 --> 01:31:55,199
and i'm like

2115
01:32:00,310 --> 01:31:56,639
shut up

2116
01:32:01,990 --> 01:32:00,320
you know as you said that to me um

2117
01:32:04,870 --> 01:32:02,000
kelly i was like how many times have i

2118
01:32:08,070 --> 01:32:04,880
said the word mosaic in my life

2119
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:08,080
not many and not many most of it was

2120
01:32:14,550 --> 01:32:12,080
probably in 1995 when mosaic was a uh a

2121
01:32:16,229 --> 01:32:14,560
browser you remember that the mosaic i

2122
01:32:17,910 --> 01:32:16,239
don't even remember that but i now i

2123
01:32:20,229 --> 01:32:17,920
mean it's kind of ringing a bell but i

2124
01:32:21,110 --> 01:32:20,239
don't think i ever used it but tom i

2125
01:32:24,070 --> 01:32:21,120
said it

2126
01:32:27,189 --> 01:32:24,080
yeah so like in one day like back to

2127
01:32:29,270 --> 01:32:27,199
back so i was just like oh that was

2128
01:32:31,910 --> 01:32:29,280
at first i mean i had i had i was sort

2129
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:31,920
of mad at my dreams mad at god like is

2130
01:32:35,750 --> 01:32:33,600
that the only dream you're gonna give me

2131
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:35,760
really i needed something else but that

2132
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:37,040
was like

2133
01:32:42,550 --> 01:32:40,159
all i needed and i and it was a and it

2134
01:32:43,990 --> 01:32:42,560
was written out very clearly yeah well

2135
01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:44,000
let's take our let's take our break

2136
01:32:50,790 --> 01:32:47,360
right here and uh before i do that uh

2137
01:32:52,870 --> 01:32:50,800
did your parents move to l.a he did they

2138
01:32:54,470 --> 01:32:52,880
it was great and they loved it they're

2139
01:32:56,790 --> 01:32:54,480
back in whittier now but they had an

2140
01:32:58,950 --> 01:32:56,800
awesome couple of years at the mosaic i

2141
01:33:01,270 --> 01:32:58,960
love friends but i love whittier we'll

2142
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:01,280
be right back after this short break

2143
01:33:05,270 --> 01:33:02,800
this is fade to blacker i guess tonight

2144
01:33:07,270 --> 01:33:05,280
to one another kelly sullivan walden

2145
01:33:09,750 --> 01:33:07,280
tonight the secrets of dreams

2146
01:33:11,670 --> 01:33:09,760
great so far we've got more to talk

2147
01:33:18,229 --> 01:33:11,680
about we'll be right back

2148
01:33:21,430 --> 01:33:18,239
[Music]

2149
01:33:23,570 --> 01:33:21,440
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2150
01:33:26,229 --> 01:33:23,580
you're listening to fade to black

2151
01:33:28,310 --> 01:33:26,239
[Applause]

2152
01:33:29,830 --> 01:33:28,320
you're listening to jimmy church and

2153
01:33:34,990 --> 01:33:29,840
fade to black

2154
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:44,560
[Applause]

2155
01:33:48,790 --> 01:33:46,870
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2156
01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:48,800
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2157
01:33:53,510 --> 01:33:51,199
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2158
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2159
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2199
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2200
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2201
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2202
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2203
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2204
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you are listening to fade to black with

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hi

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i'm lisa vance you're listening to jimmy

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church this is revolution the revolution

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will not be televised the revolution is

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on radio

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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welcome back fade to black i gotta get

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01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:11,840
ready for this i kind of

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got to stretch i've got to get ready

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01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:16,400
kelly sullivan walden is with us we're

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talking about dreams this is the best

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01:39:21,030 --> 01:39:20,080
show

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01:39:24,310 --> 01:39:21,040
ever

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now tonight um i and and i'm not kidding

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01:39:29,270 --> 01:39:26,400
about this calling this the secrets of

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01:39:32,149 --> 01:39:29,280
dreams because if i've got questions if

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01:39:34,550 --> 01:39:32,159
i want to know really what's going on

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01:39:36,790 --> 01:39:34,560
it's it's it's kelly and i've got a list

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01:39:39,109 --> 01:39:36,800
of stuff i want i want i want to know

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01:39:42,149 --> 01:39:39,119
the secret stuff now you just said

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01:39:44,550 --> 01:39:42,159
you've got a shortcut for us okay on how

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01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:44,560
to resolve and end the dream we'll get

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01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,800
back to that to my notes i've written it

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01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,960
down i don't think i'm going to forget

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01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:51,600
but i want to know this

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01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:56,719
why is it that time

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doesn't matter in a dream

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01:40:03,430 --> 01:40:01,760
how can we

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dream

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01:40:09,910 --> 01:40:07,360
a full week of stuff day one day two day

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01:40:12,470 --> 01:40:09,920
three day four all of the events

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01:40:13,830 --> 01:40:12,480
everything happens in real time you

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experience

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a week

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01:40:19,590 --> 01:40:16,800
and you wake up and you were asleep for

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01:40:23,430 --> 01:40:19,600
six hours that doesn't make any sense

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01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:23,440
and and out of that six hours how much

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01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:25,760
of the six out eight hours whatever how

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01:40:32,149 --> 01:40:29,760
much of that is spent actually dreaming

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01:40:34,070 --> 01:40:32,159
so you know i don't know you know what

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01:40:37,189 --> 01:40:34,080
is it a couple of hours that were like

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01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:37,199
in a serious dream state how can we

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01:40:42,950 --> 01:40:39,600
dream a month

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in in in a few hours it doesn't it

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unless we're going to somewhere where

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you know space-time

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01:40:51,910 --> 01:40:49,360
it doesn't matter

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01:40:54,390 --> 01:40:51,920
uh with dreams how is that possible

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01:40:55,189 --> 01:40:54,400
oh there's so much to say here

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so

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there is i'm gonna i'm gonna first bring

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in einstein because why not let's just

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01:41:04,709 --> 01:41:01,119
bring in einstein and the theory of

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01:41:06,790 --> 01:41:04,719
relativity and his and that basically

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01:41:07,910 --> 01:41:06,800
says that time is relative to the

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observer

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and

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so

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01:41:13,669 --> 01:41:11,679
from that perspective there is no

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01:41:17,430 --> 01:41:13,679
definitive

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01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:17,440
measure of time ultimately in our

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01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:20,800
reality here in the third dimension we

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we sort of measure by time but this is

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just the third dimension this is not the

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whole reality there are

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infinite dimensions and so really in the

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third dimension is the only place where

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time exists and we're not in 3d when

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01:41:40,229 --> 01:41:36,719
we're dreaming

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01:41:43,430 --> 01:41:40,239
from a bit of a scientific perspective

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01:41:45,669 --> 01:41:43,440
our prefrontal cortex is what we're

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using right now this is the part of our

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01:41:52,070 --> 01:41:48,800
mind that measures things that that is

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logical and rational and very grounded

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01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:53,679
and this is the part of us that can look

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01:41:57,350 --> 01:41:55,600
at the clock and we can we have a sense

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01:41:58,229 --> 01:41:57,360
of what five minutes feels like 10

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minutes

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01:42:03,270 --> 01:42:00,400
but this is the part of our mind our

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01:42:05,750 --> 01:42:03,280
brain our prefrontal cortex shuts off

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01:42:07,590 --> 01:42:05,760
most of the time while we're asleep not

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all the time it does sometimes come back

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01:42:12,950 --> 01:42:10,400
on during rem but it goes but mostly

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01:42:15,189 --> 01:42:12,960
it's it's on and off and mostly off it

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01:42:17,430 --> 01:42:15,199
needs a rest it needs a break because

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01:42:19,910 --> 01:42:17,440
it's running the show of our lives while

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01:42:22,629 --> 01:42:19,920
we're awake most of the time

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01:42:23,669 --> 01:42:22,639
the moment the prefrontal cortex shuts

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01:42:26,070 --> 01:42:23,679
down

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01:42:28,470 --> 01:42:26,080
we're not in time anymore and in fact we

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01:42:30,390 --> 01:42:28,480
could say there's the right and left

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01:42:32,790 --> 01:42:30,400
hemisphere there's the left hemisphere

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01:42:35,590 --> 01:42:32,800
of our brain is what calibrates time and

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01:42:37,270 --> 01:42:35,600
all of that and and our right is our

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01:42:39,270 --> 01:42:37,280
right hemisphere of our brain is more

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01:42:40,070 --> 01:42:39,280
abstract so there's

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01:42:43,590 --> 01:42:40,080
so

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01:42:46,550 --> 01:42:43,600
where it's there is this reality that is

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01:42:50,149 --> 01:42:46,560
much more um it's it's a much more

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01:42:51,990 --> 01:42:50,159
powerful reality that is not in time so

2359
01:42:55,510 --> 01:42:52,000
there are people that actually will

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01:42:58,470 --> 01:42:55,520
dream an entire not just a couple hours

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01:43:00,709 --> 01:42:58,480
or a week but a lifetime

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01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:00,719
in a dream that is absolutely

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01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,639
conceivable because we're

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01:43:08,149 --> 01:43:04,880
not in we're not limited

2365
01:43:10,870 --> 01:43:08,159
in in dreams we're outside of the box

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01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:10,880
where time doesn't exist according to

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01:43:17,510 --> 01:43:14,000
einstein everything exists all the time

2368
01:43:20,229 --> 01:43:17,520
and even some more metaphysical folks

2369
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:20,239
like like bashar my friend daryl anka

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01:43:25,109 --> 01:43:22,639
who channels bashar he he talks about

2371
01:43:26,870 --> 01:43:25,119
how there are multiple

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01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:26,880
simultaneous

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01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:29,040
lifetimes it's not just a matter of

2374
01:43:33,669 --> 01:43:31,360
linearly looking at past lives and

2375
01:43:35,109 --> 01:43:33,679
future lives and then this present life

2376
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:35,119
that we're in but

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01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:39,040
everything existing right now all here

2378
01:43:42,390 --> 01:43:41,520
multiple simultaneously so really in a

2379
01:43:44,470 --> 01:43:42,400
dream

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01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,480
if we're i think of it okay this is

2381
01:43:48,310 --> 01:43:45,840
funny because i'm

2382
01:43:50,629 --> 01:43:48,320
i i think in terms of symbols so imagine

2383
01:43:52,310 --> 01:43:50,639
one of those big sandwiches that you

2384
01:43:55,109 --> 01:43:52,320
that you can get from subway that's just

2385
01:43:57,270 --> 01:43:55,119
stacked with all kinds of layers of meat

2386
01:43:58,950 --> 01:43:57,280
and cheese and lettuce and tomato and

2387
01:44:00,390 --> 01:43:58,960
and it's just like this huge stack so

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01:44:02,229 --> 01:44:00,400
imagine that that

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01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:02,239
is all of time

2390
01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,560
and the stack the the place that the

2391
01:44:07,750 --> 01:44:06,080
piece of the sandwich that we're focused

2392
01:44:10,470 --> 01:44:07,760
on right now is just that little center

2393
01:44:12,470 --> 01:44:10,480
piece of of cheese

2394
01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:12,480
this is this is really bizarre i can't

2395
01:44:18,550 --> 01:44:15,920
believe i'm going here but in a dream

2396
01:44:21,189 --> 01:44:18,560
banana peppers you know layer banana

2397
01:44:23,350 --> 01:44:21,199
peppers thank you and a little jalapeno

2398
01:44:26,310 --> 01:44:23,360
and all that so let's just so then in a

2399
01:44:27,590 --> 01:44:26,320
dream we we jump up to where the banana

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01:44:30,070 --> 01:44:27,600
peppers are

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01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:30,080
and that's and we and we go all the way

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01:44:34,229 --> 01:44:31,920
from the beginning to the end and then

2403
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:34,239
we wake back up and we're we're at the

2404
01:44:39,669 --> 01:44:36,960
pepper jack cheese layer

2405
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:39,679
but we're all there and it's all us

2406
01:44:44,790 --> 01:44:42,320
right right somebody just oh by the way

2407
01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:44,800
i like this comment i might be psychic

2408
01:44:50,790 --> 01:44:47,360
but i think blue is her favorite color

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01:44:53,910 --> 01:44:51,750
i guess

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01:44:55,750 --> 01:44:53,920
i i didn't i didn't post it tonight but

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01:44:58,870 --> 01:44:55,760
one of my favorite pictures

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01:45:03,270 --> 01:44:58,880
um is of the two of us uh some work

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01:45:06,070 --> 01:45:03,280
together um but yeah you are wearing

2414
01:45:09,189 --> 01:45:06,080
you're blue you're blue um i'm i'm i'm

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01:45:11,430 --> 01:45:09,199
out of the closet yep it's true

2416
01:45:13,590 --> 01:45:11,440
i would my show would be fade to blue

2417
01:45:17,270 --> 01:45:13,600
yeah

2418
01:45:18,790 --> 01:45:17,280
now somebody just posted um and i don't

2419
01:45:21,590 --> 01:45:18,800
have it here but

2420
01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:21,600
um it said that i've lived an entire

2421
01:45:27,109 --> 01:45:23,440
life in one dream

2422
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:27,119
raising kids and marriage and jobs and

2423
01:45:30,870 --> 01:45:29,199
and and and everything and i just don't

2424
01:45:33,830 --> 01:45:30,880
see how that's possible

2425
01:45:37,109 --> 01:45:33,840
um unless well it is possible because

2426
01:45:39,189 --> 01:45:37,119
we've all done it it's just how does

2427
01:45:41,590 --> 01:45:39,199
this happen unless there is another

2428
01:45:47,350 --> 01:45:41,600
explanation

2429
01:45:49,910 --> 01:45:47,360
um i think you and i have seen bashar

2430
01:45:54,390 --> 01:45:49,920
together uh before yeah

2431
01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:54,400
and um and i have always asked bashar

2432
01:45:59,189 --> 01:45:57,520
um some kind of time traveled a

2433
01:46:01,590 --> 01:45:59,199
time question

2434
01:46:03,109 --> 01:46:01,600
because he explains it so well but i

2435
01:46:05,350 --> 01:46:03,119
very

2436
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:05,360
rarely understand it right it's like i

2437
01:46:11,430 --> 01:46:08,800
wanted to repeat it but he says man time

2438
01:46:13,669 --> 01:46:11,440
is is everything all at once man

2439
01:46:16,310 --> 01:46:13,679
you're looking at it wrong we don't

2440
01:46:17,669 --> 01:46:16,320
experience time how you are trying to

2441
01:46:19,430 --> 01:46:17,679
experience

2442
01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:19,440
how you are trying to ask me this

2443
01:46:27,990 --> 01:46:23,360
question right now no time is everything

2444
01:46:32,629 --> 01:46:30,950
okay i remember

2445
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:32,639
telling you

2446
01:46:37,350 --> 01:46:35,520
about this dream i only had it once but

2447
01:46:38,629 --> 01:46:37,360
it was just so vivid and i think about

2448
01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:38,639
it all the time

2449
01:46:48,070 --> 01:46:46,149
and i i

2450
01:46:50,870 --> 01:46:48,080
remember you and i talking about this in

2451
01:46:52,390 --> 01:46:50,880
that i start out it was a cold winter

2452
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,400
day and

2453
01:46:56,310 --> 01:46:54,400
you know and i start out the book and

2454
01:46:57,669 --> 01:46:56,320
and i go through my childhood i go

2455
01:46:59,590 --> 01:46:57,679
through everything i write it all and i

2456
01:47:02,470 --> 01:46:59,600
get to the end and that's my life story

2457
01:47:04,310 --> 01:47:02,480
the the end and i write my entire life i

2458
01:47:07,270 --> 01:47:04,320
i write a book

2459
01:47:09,990 --> 01:47:07,280
wow like and i remember

2460
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:10,000
every word of every chapter and sitting

2461
01:47:14,709 --> 01:47:12,719
down how is that possible

2462
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:14,719
that i can do that in eight hours now it

2463
01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:16,400
was a wonderful dream

2464
01:47:20,149 --> 01:47:18,480
but i woke up in the morning going how

2465
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:20,159
how how

2466
01:47:27,030 --> 01:47:24,000
how can i have that entire experience

2467
01:47:29,910 --> 01:47:27,040
in just a few hours it it it doesn't

2468
01:47:31,350 --> 01:47:29,920
make any sense kelly no it it doesn't

2469
01:47:34,470 --> 01:47:31,360
make sense to

2470
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:34,480
the prefrontal cortex to the rational

2471
01:47:37,430 --> 01:47:36,159
logical part of our brain which is

2472
01:47:40,310 --> 01:47:37,440
primarily

2473
01:47:42,870 --> 01:47:40,320
who we identify ourselves as but if you

2474
01:47:45,030 --> 01:47:42,880
think a tiny bit shamanically which

2475
01:47:47,350 --> 01:47:45,040
we're doing anytime we talk about dreams

2476
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:47,360
we're in the realm of the shamans period

2477
01:47:51,270 --> 01:47:48,800
we're in the realm of the sorcerers

2478
01:47:52,709 --> 01:47:51,280
we're out of we're in non-ordinary

2479
01:47:54,229 --> 01:47:52,719
reality

2480
01:47:55,830 --> 01:47:54,239
there's a there's a term that the

2481
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:55,840
shamans use called well at least the

2482
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:58,320
ones that i know called recapitulation

2483
01:48:02,709 --> 01:48:00,320
and it's actually a shamanic exercise

2484
01:48:04,629 --> 01:48:02,719
where you envision your whole life

2485
01:48:07,510 --> 01:48:04,639
whether backwards to forwards or

2486
01:48:09,590 --> 01:48:07,520
forwards to backwards but you by by

2487
01:48:11,350 --> 01:48:09,600
writing your story i imagine that was

2488
01:48:13,590 --> 01:48:11,360
quite a shamanic journey you were on

2489
01:48:14,470 --> 01:48:13,600
because it's as if you're owning your

2490
01:48:17,510 --> 01:48:14,480
power

2491
01:48:20,070 --> 01:48:17,520
to write something is to a write

2492
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:20,080
something it's like you're owning it

2493
01:48:23,189 --> 01:48:21,760
you're claiming it

2494
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:23,199
you're loving it it's like you're

2495
01:48:28,550 --> 01:48:26,639
turning your life into art and to me

2496
01:48:30,390 --> 01:48:28,560
that's one of the most powerful dreams

2497
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,400
to have is is to be able to write it

2498
01:48:35,189 --> 01:48:32,480
that means that you are the author

2499
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:35,199
the authority of your life and you've

2500
01:48:39,510 --> 01:48:37,199
put words to your experience you've

2501
01:48:41,510 --> 01:48:39,520
owned it this is what we do

2502
01:48:44,310 --> 01:48:41,520
in when we have near-death experiences

2503
01:48:46,870 --> 01:48:44,320
or death experiences we have these like

2504
01:48:49,189 --> 01:48:46,880
life reviews and so you did that but

2505
01:48:51,430 --> 01:48:49,199
instead in a form that you actually

2506
01:48:53,669 --> 01:48:51,440
wrote word by word and you remember it

2507
01:48:54,790 --> 01:48:53,679
so it's it's a really powerful dream and

2508
01:48:57,270 --> 01:48:54,800
it might be

2509
01:49:00,070 --> 01:48:57,280
a precursor to you perhaps writing a

2510
01:49:01,830 --> 01:49:00,080
memoir or writing your autobiography

2511
01:49:03,430 --> 01:49:01,840
these days people are more apt to write

2512
01:49:05,510 --> 01:49:03,440
memoirs which is

2513
01:49:07,830 --> 01:49:05,520
kind of like an autobiography but more

2514
01:49:09,910 --> 01:49:07,840
of a slice of life so i think if you

2515
01:49:11,189 --> 01:49:09,920
haven't yet jimmy it's this dream and

2516
01:49:13,189 --> 01:49:11,199
the fact that you're bringing it up to

2517
01:49:14,950 --> 01:49:13,199
me because i'm actually one of the

2518
01:49:16,709 --> 01:49:14,960
things i'm doing sort of on the side

2519
01:49:18,629 --> 01:49:16,719
because i've written so many books is

2520
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:18,639
i'm supporting people i have a writing

2521
01:49:23,109 --> 01:49:20,960
course coming up in september called get

2522
01:49:25,589 --> 01:49:23,119
or done which is about like owning the

2523
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,599
dream of your life by writing your book

2524
01:49:29,350 --> 01:49:27,280
just like what you did in your dream

2525
01:49:30,550 --> 01:49:29,360
which is fascinating

2526
01:49:34,229 --> 01:49:30,560
i still can't

2527
01:49:35,750 --> 01:49:34,239
come up with the uh the first sentence

2528
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:35,760
but when i do

2529
01:49:39,910 --> 01:49:38,159
fade to black is the beginning and by

2530
01:49:42,470 --> 01:49:39,920
the way if we ever did a show it would

2531
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,480
be called fade to black and blue fade to

2532
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:44,560
black and blue that was a band

2533
01:49:49,910 --> 01:49:48,880
it was a band in the 80s oh okay

2534
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:49,920
and

2535
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:52,560
oh well i thought i was so original

2536
01:49:54,870 --> 01:49:53,520
is

2537
01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:54,880
uh

2538
01:49:58,550 --> 01:49:56,560
some people are laughing at that some

2539
01:49:59,830 --> 01:49:58,560
people are not you can't joke about

2540
01:50:00,709 --> 01:49:59,840
black and blue

2541
01:50:01,910 --> 01:50:00,719
um

2542
01:50:04,870 --> 01:50:01,920
is is

2543
01:50:07,589 --> 01:50:04,880
uh what about

2544
01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,599
dying in your dreams

2545
01:50:11,990 --> 01:50:09,599
okay let no let's get to the urban

2546
01:50:15,270 --> 01:50:12,000
legend about that right never right in

2547
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:16,950
you're not gonna wake up

2548
01:50:20,229 --> 01:50:18,480
now what

2549
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,239
and then i want to get to this comment

2550
01:50:23,430 --> 01:50:22,080
here hold on um

2551
01:50:25,350 --> 01:50:23,440
is this one

2552
01:50:27,910 --> 01:50:25,360
um i thought you were supposed to wake

2553
01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:27,920
up before you hit the ground right okay

2554
01:50:35,270 --> 01:50:32,550
what about that do do people die in

2555
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:35,280
their dreams and and if they do

2556
01:50:41,750 --> 01:50:38,400
uh are they are they not waking up and

2557
01:50:42,709 --> 01:50:41,760
and and and what what what is there to

2558
01:50:45,830 --> 01:50:42,719
this

2559
01:50:46,629 --> 01:50:45,840
or is it just uh some urban legend that

2560
01:50:48,390 --> 01:50:46,639
is

2561
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:48,400
itself oh by the way

2562
01:50:53,910 --> 01:50:50,639
i think i recapitulate after a hard

2563
01:50:56,070 --> 01:50:53,920
night of drinking of that's uh that's

2564
01:50:57,830 --> 01:50:56,080
i haven't experienced that

2565
01:51:00,709 --> 01:50:57,840
it might not be shamanic at all it's

2566
01:51:03,109 --> 01:51:00,719
just a drunken stupor

2567
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:03,119
it was with the band black and blue and

2568
01:51:08,550 --> 01:51:06,719
it was with them yes oh my god now so

2569
01:51:10,870 --> 01:51:08,560
what about what about

2570
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:10,880
death in a dream yeah death in a dream

2571
01:51:15,189 --> 01:51:13,040
okay so the urban legend is if you die

2572
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:15,199
in your dream you actually die

2573
01:51:21,669 --> 01:51:16,000
in

2574
01:51:23,830 --> 01:51:21,679
that's not necessarily true i know so

2575
01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:23,840
many people that died in their dream and

2576
01:51:28,470 --> 01:51:25,599
what happened to them

2577
01:51:30,550 --> 01:51:28,480
there's a corollary in their waking life

2578
01:51:33,189 --> 01:51:30,560
where there's a radical change death is

2579
01:51:35,910 --> 01:51:33,199
symbolic and dreams speak the language

2580
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:35,920
of symbol it's symbolic of

2581
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:38,159
a radical ending i mean we're changing

2582
01:51:43,750 --> 01:51:40,800
and growing we die daily we're reborn

2583
01:51:46,229 --> 01:51:43,760
daily anyway but if you die in a dream

2584
01:51:49,589 --> 01:51:46,239
that usually symbolizes it's the end of

2585
01:51:52,070 --> 01:51:49,599
a major life pattern major cycle it's

2586
01:51:55,430 --> 01:51:52,080
over and a new version of you is about

2587
01:51:57,189 --> 01:51:55,440
to begin now there may be those that did

2588
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:57,199
have a dream where they died and they

2589
01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:58,320
did die

2590
01:52:02,149 --> 01:52:00,239
but we'll never know

2591
01:52:02,870 --> 01:52:02,159
because they're on the other side unless

2592
01:52:05,030 --> 01:52:02,880
they

2593
01:52:08,070 --> 01:52:05,040
channel through somebody i think it's

2594
01:52:10,470 --> 01:52:08,080
possible i i know that a lot of people

2595
01:52:12,870 --> 01:52:10,480
have dreams about being on the edge of

2596
01:52:14,709 --> 01:52:12,880
death and sometimes it's it's so

2597
01:52:17,030 --> 01:52:14,719
terrifying that it causes them to wake

2598
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:17,040
up only to realize that they had maybe

2599
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:19,040
sleep apnea and they weren't they

2600
01:52:22,629 --> 01:52:20,639
weren't breathing well and the dream was

2601
01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:22,639
trying to get their attention from the

2602
01:52:26,070 --> 01:52:24,560
perspective that our dreams are on our

2603
01:52:27,510 --> 01:52:26,080
side and they're always trying to help

2604
01:52:30,149 --> 01:52:27,520
us out

2605
01:52:32,950 --> 01:52:30,159
a dream of dying it's like trying to get

2606
01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:32,960
our attention to make a change to let

2607
01:52:37,030 --> 01:52:35,040
something go so that we can be born a

2608
01:52:38,629 --> 01:52:37,040
new into this incarnation we don't have

2609
01:52:41,030 --> 01:52:38,639
to die

2610
01:52:43,270 --> 01:52:41,040
physically in order to have like when i

2611
01:52:45,910 --> 01:52:43,280
talk to daniel brinkley we always talk

2612
01:52:48,550 --> 01:52:45,920
about how most people don't have to be

2613
01:52:50,149 --> 01:52:48,560
as dense as he or i

2614
01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:50,159
am to actually have a near-death

2615
01:52:54,629 --> 01:52:51,840
experience some of us can just have a

2616
01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:54,639
really vivid dream about dying and get

2617
01:53:00,229 --> 01:52:58,159
the benefit of having that like shaking

2618
01:53:02,870 --> 01:53:00,239
up so we we change radically when we

2619
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:02,880
wake up most people aren't as dense as

2620
01:53:10,310 --> 01:53:09,109
dan brinkley for sure i love him yeah

2621
01:53:11,270 --> 01:53:10,320
he's the best

2622
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:11,280
um

2623
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:13,119
he said that he would say that out loud

2624
01:53:17,510 --> 01:53:15,440
i'm not talking about he he would oh

2625
01:53:19,910 --> 01:53:17,520
he's an awesome dude and there's nothing

2626
01:53:22,390 --> 01:53:19,920
better than a danny brinkley hug

2627
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:22,400
i mean nothing better no no no like in

2628
01:53:25,589 --> 01:53:23,599
the world

2629
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:25,599
except for a jimmy church hug

2630
01:53:30,390 --> 01:53:28,480
no well maybe okay it's like this

2631
01:53:32,709 --> 01:53:30,400
chocolate moose

2632
01:53:34,790 --> 01:53:32,719
danny and brinkley hug

2633
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,800
that's a tough call man that's entirely

2634
01:53:39,350 --> 01:53:36,800
jimmy church sorry

2635
01:53:41,109 --> 01:53:39,360
that's it hands down and the end of

2636
01:53:44,550 --> 01:53:41,119
conversation

2637
01:53:47,589 --> 01:53:44,560
um man i missed you um what what's uh

2638
01:53:48,390 --> 01:53:47,599
what's the shortcut to ending a dream

2639
01:53:49,510 --> 01:53:48,400
well

2640
01:53:52,310 --> 01:53:49,520
okay so

2641
01:53:54,149 --> 01:53:52,320
this is whether we and i and i borrow

2642
01:53:56,790 --> 01:53:54,159
this from robert wagoner i got to give

2643
01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:56,800
him credit he's a he's a lucid dreaming

2644
01:54:01,350 --> 01:53:59,040
expert who's tracked thousands of his

2645
01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:01,360
own lucid dreams and i've tried this for

2646
01:54:04,310 --> 01:54:03,119
myself and it absolutely works so the

2647
01:54:07,510 --> 01:54:04,320
idea is

2648
01:54:09,109 --> 01:54:07,520
whether you're remembering your dream

2649
01:54:11,030 --> 01:54:09,119
in an awake state and you're looking

2650
01:54:12,550 --> 01:54:11,040
back on your dream

2651
01:54:14,470 --> 01:54:12,560
like you just shared like your black

2652
01:54:16,709 --> 01:54:14,480
blob dream or the shopping dream or the

2653
01:54:19,510 --> 01:54:16,719
casino dream and it's like anything

2654
01:54:22,390 --> 01:54:19,520
that's unfinished whether inside the

2655
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:22,400
dream itself from a lucid state or from

2656
01:54:27,669 --> 01:54:25,119
an awake state remembering it

2657
01:54:30,870 --> 01:54:27,679
the quickest best way to make progress

2658
01:54:32,470 --> 01:54:30,880
on that dream is to go backstage imagine

2659
01:54:34,310 --> 01:54:32,480
that you go backstage kind of like what

2660
01:54:35,990 --> 01:54:34,320
you do in your shopping dreams where you

2661
01:54:38,709 --> 01:54:36,000
find those tunnels or those things where

2662
01:54:40,550 --> 01:54:38,719
you just go backstage and you yell out

2663
01:54:42,790 --> 01:54:40,560
loud and you imagine yourself you could

2664
01:54:44,390 --> 01:54:42,800
just picture yourself doing this yelling

2665
01:54:47,669 --> 01:54:44,400
to the dream maker

2666
01:54:49,990 --> 01:54:47,679
what am i supposed to know here

2667
01:54:51,990 --> 01:54:50,000
what am i supposed to know and that in

2668
01:54:54,709 --> 01:54:52,000
some way kind of cuts

2669
01:54:57,510 --> 01:54:54,719
all the like it cuts out the middle man

2670
01:54:59,030 --> 01:54:57,520
it cuts out all the the scenarios and

2671
01:55:01,830 --> 01:54:59,040
all the and it just kind of goes right

2672
01:55:03,990 --> 01:55:01,840
to like the next place on the script or

2673
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:04,000
on the curriculum for you like oh so

2674
01:55:07,910 --> 01:55:05,760
you're going to be flooded with when you

2675
01:55:10,070 --> 01:55:07,920
ask that question we could even all

2676
01:55:11,189 --> 01:55:10,080
ask it right now

2677
01:55:13,750 --> 01:55:11,199
like

2678
01:55:16,709 --> 01:55:13,760
p.s what am i supposed to know

2679
01:55:22,390 --> 01:55:16,719
right here right now in this waking

2680
01:55:25,910 --> 01:55:24,070
so if we had the time we would sit in

2681
01:55:28,310 --> 01:55:25,920
some silence and we would maybe do some

2682
01:55:30,950 --> 01:55:28,320
journaling to see what comes through and

2683
01:55:33,589 --> 01:55:30,960
even if we don't get an absolute answer

2684
01:55:35,750 --> 01:55:33,599
notice the energy changes somewhat it

2685
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:35,760
brings us out of the shallow end into

2686
01:55:39,830 --> 01:55:37,840
the deeper pool into the deeper end

2687
01:55:41,430 --> 01:55:39,840
where because we're now we're listening

2688
01:55:43,589 --> 01:55:41,440
for like what am i supposed to know

2689
01:55:45,910 --> 01:55:43,599
instead of like let me figure out who is

2690
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:45,920
this person why is this person here what

2691
01:55:49,830 --> 01:55:48,400
am i it's like just dream maker what am

2692
01:55:52,149 --> 01:55:49,840
i supposed to know

2693
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:52,159
that simple elegant question will cut

2694
01:55:57,189 --> 01:55:54,800
through so much of the crap and just get

2695
01:55:59,350 --> 01:55:57,199
us right to the gold mm-hmm

2696
01:56:01,270 --> 01:55:59,360
i like it by the way it's a good mantra

2697
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:01,280
to have just in our waking lives as we

2698
01:56:05,109 --> 01:56:03,679
go like something happens to us we find

2699
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:05,119
out about something traumatic on the

2700
01:56:08,709 --> 01:56:06,960
news we find out about something

2701
01:56:10,390 --> 01:56:08,719
unsettling we say okay what am i

2702
01:56:12,950 --> 01:56:10,400
supposed to know here

2703
01:56:14,790 --> 01:56:12,960
how is what is this teaching me how can

2704
01:56:16,629 --> 01:56:14,800
i get to it instead of adding more

2705
01:56:18,470 --> 01:56:16,639
problem to the problem

2706
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:18,480
what's my solution what am i supposed to

2707
01:56:22,470 --> 01:56:19,840
know

2708
01:56:24,950 --> 01:56:22,480
last night i i just want to see you

2709
01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:24,960
laugh for a second so last night

2710
01:56:28,229 --> 01:56:26,960
i woke up in the middle of the night had

2711
01:56:29,669 --> 01:56:28,239
to go to the bathroom right it's like

2712
01:56:31,750 --> 01:56:29,679
four o'clock in the morning and i wake

2713
01:56:33,910 --> 01:56:31,760
up and i remember my dream

2714
01:56:36,470 --> 01:56:33,920
and i sit up on the edge of the bed and

2715
01:56:37,910 --> 01:56:36,480
i'm like i'm dreaming about charlie

2716
01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:37,920
clauser

2717
01:56:46,629 --> 01:56:44,320
highest order at bell laboratories when

2718
01:56:48,470 --> 01:56:46,639
i worked there in 1982.

2719
01:56:50,470 --> 01:56:48,480
and it was the what did you say at bell

2720
01:56:52,950 --> 01:56:50,480
laboratories he was the highest he was

2721
01:56:53,830 --> 01:56:52,960
an engineer a very smart guy at bell

2722
01:56:56,070 --> 01:56:53,840
average

2723
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:56,080
but no so check this out i'm sitting on

2724
01:57:01,030 --> 01:56:57,760
the edge of the bed i mean charlie

2725
01:57:02,629 --> 01:57:01,040
clowser in my dream all night

2726
01:57:03,830 --> 01:57:02,639
and i haven't thought about this guy in

2727
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:03,840
years and i sit up on the edge of the

2728
01:57:09,270 --> 01:57:06,639
bed and i've got a i've got an audio an

2729
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:09,280
audible audio book playing

2730
01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:11,760
on the secrets of quantum

2731
01:57:16,310 --> 01:57:14,480
physics and mechanics right whoa jimmy

2732
01:57:18,709 --> 01:57:16,320
church that is a great thing to do while

2733
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:18,719
you're sleeping i do it all the time

2734
01:57:20,950 --> 01:57:19,840
so i'm sitting there in the edge of the

2735
01:57:23,189 --> 01:57:20,960
bed and i'm thinking about charlie

2736
01:57:24,390 --> 01:57:23,199
clowser and then i hear

2737
01:57:26,870 --> 01:57:24,400
the author

2738
01:57:28,870 --> 01:57:26,880
in the auto audio book oh

2739
01:57:31,589 --> 01:57:28,880
and so then klauser showed up in

2740
01:57:33,109 --> 01:57:31,599
switzerland for the conference on and i

2741
01:57:36,229 --> 01:57:33,119
went clowser

2742
01:57:38,790 --> 01:57:36,239
and i and i look at him listening and it

2743
01:57:40,070 --> 01:57:38,800
was like a chapter on this guy

2744
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:40,080
klauser

2745
01:57:45,270 --> 01:57:43,280
and and so don't think

2746
01:57:47,030 --> 01:57:45,280
that your audible

2747
01:57:49,830 --> 01:57:47,040
books on tape

2748
01:57:54,229 --> 01:57:49,840
that you listen to while you go to sleep

2749
01:57:57,990 --> 01:57:54,239
do not steer your dreams because they do

2750
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:58,000
we absolutely do oh man charlie clowser

2751
01:58:01,830 --> 01:57:59,920
right i was like what what's the

2752
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:01,840
significance of this it was just so

2753
01:58:05,430 --> 01:58:04,000
funny so clowns are then accepted the

2754
01:58:07,830 --> 01:58:05,440
invitation to go to the conference in

2755
01:58:10,790 --> 01:58:07,840
switzerland to discuss this theory on

2756
01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:10,800
quantum mechanics

2757
01:58:15,750 --> 01:58:13,199
i looked at my little speaker and i went

2758
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:15,760
oh man i'm so relieved

2759
01:58:19,830 --> 01:58:17,679
that i don't have some kind of weird

2760
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:19,840
fascination to my old friend charlie

2761
01:58:23,270 --> 01:58:21,040
clauser

2762
01:58:25,669 --> 01:58:23,280
that is so interesting but there's a

2763
01:58:27,510 --> 01:58:25,679
reason that he i mean of all the data

2764
01:58:28,870 --> 01:58:27,520
that was that was that was in what you

2765
01:58:31,189 --> 01:58:28,880
were listening to the fact that you

2766
01:58:33,750 --> 01:58:31,199
picked that yeah like

2767
01:58:36,470 --> 01:58:33,760
give me a few adjectives that describe

2768
01:58:37,430 --> 01:58:36,480
the energy or the essence of him

2769
01:58:39,990 --> 01:58:37,440
yeah

2770
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:43,990
goober nerd combed over flat greasy hair

2771
01:58:48,709 --> 01:58:46,560
um a pocket protector

2772
01:58:49,669 --> 01:58:48,719
always wore a white shirt

2773
01:58:50,950 --> 01:58:49,679
and

2774
01:58:56,870 --> 01:58:50,960
genius

2775
01:58:59,750 --> 01:58:56,880
and and and just walk past him right no

2776
01:59:01,510 --> 01:58:59,760
with no zero interest on his

2777
01:59:03,589 --> 01:59:01,520
persona that's what geeks are they're

2778
01:59:06,390 --> 01:59:03,599
not a pi you know they're not social

2779
01:59:09,030 --> 01:59:06,400
people they don't dress to impress

2780
01:59:11,270 --> 01:59:09,040
they are people of the mind and that's

2781
01:59:12,149 --> 01:59:11,280
what he and he was such an interesting

2782
01:59:14,870 --> 01:59:12,159
guy

2783
01:59:16,870 --> 01:59:14,880
loved loved him and and i loved hanging

2784
01:59:17,669 --> 01:59:16,880
out with him but i haven't thought about

2785
01:59:21,270 --> 01:59:17,679
him

2786
01:59:23,589 --> 01:59:21,280
since i was 21. so one thing to do with

2787
01:59:25,270 --> 01:59:23,599
this dream is to is to even ask that

2788
01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:25,280
question like what am i supposed to know

2789
01:59:30,790 --> 01:59:27,760
here how might this how might charlie

2790
01:59:32,790 --> 01:59:30,800
clowser what he represents be trying to

2791
01:59:35,270 --> 01:59:32,800
enlighten me trying to give me something

2792
01:59:36,070 --> 01:59:35,280
so what might like let's just jump to

2793
01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:36,080
that

2794
01:59:41,350 --> 01:59:39,119
second jet set i did i did think about

2795
01:59:47,430 --> 01:59:41,360
that and i've got two minutes left

2796
01:59:52,790 --> 01:59:51,030
okay but what i thought about was

2797
01:59:55,350 --> 01:59:52,800
i'm 58.

2798
01:59:56,310 --> 01:59:55,360
charlie was probably 20 years older than

2799
01:59:59,830 --> 01:59:56,320
me

2800
02:00:02,390 --> 01:59:59,840
is he still around does he know

2801
02:00:04,149 --> 02:00:02,400
that i'm thinking about him right now

2802
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:04,159
that's that was the thought that was the

2803
02:00:10,390 --> 02:00:07,440
finality that was the closure for me

2804
02:00:12,070 --> 02:00:10,400
on this and i know it sounds strange

2805
02:00:14,390 --> 02:00:12,080
but you have to really think about how

2806
02:00:16,950 --> 02:00:14,400
some people affect your life and you

2807
02:00:20,390 --> 02:00:16,960
don't really know it or appreciate it at

2808
02:00:21,910 --> 02:00:20,400
the time but here i am you know that was

2809
02:00:25,430 --> 02:00:21,920
1982

2810
02:00:26,870 --> 02:00:25,440
this is 2022 that was 40 year four

2811
02:00:29,310 --> 02:00:26,880
decades ago

2812
02:00:30,950 --> 02:00:29,320
right and here i am

2813
02:00:32,870 --> 02:00:30,960
remembering

2814
02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:32,880
his first and last name

2815
02:00:36,550 --> 02:00:35,679
right and having this this

2816
02:00:38,229 --> 02:00:36,560
this

2817
02:00:41,990 --> 02:00:38,239
the cyclic

2818
02:00:45,510 --> 02:00:42,000
closure right right this this

2819
02:00:47,669 --> 02:00:45,520
not just a closure but a clowser bingo

2820
02:00:49,510 --> 02:00:47,679
bingo yeah and and i thought about that

2821
02:00:52,070 --> 02:00:49,520
i thought where is he today

2822
02:00:53,910 --> 02:00:52,080
he's got to be he's got to be 20 years

2823
02:00:55,830 --> 02:00:53,920
older than me and i i went through the

2824
02:00:57,990 --> 02:00:55,840
whole thing i wonder if he knows that

2825
02:00:59,910 --> 02:00:58,000
i'm thinking about him right now yeah

2826
02:01:02,070 --> 02:00:59,920
that's amazing and

2827
02:01:03,830 --> 02:01:02,080
i would say that's the literal aspect in

2828
02:01:07,030 --> 02:01:03,840
the and the

2829
02:01:09,109 --> 02:01:07,040
the symbolic aspect is this is everybody

2830
02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:09,119
and everything in our dream is an aspect

2831
02:01:13,910 --> 02:01:11,440
of ourselves so why is it important that

2832
02:01:16,629 --> 02:01:13,920
i connect with the charlie clauser

2833
02:01:19,270 --> 02:01:16,639
aspect of myself how might that benefit

2834
02:01:21,990 --> 02:01:19,280
me in my life to embrace this my inner

2835
02:01:24,870 --> 02:01:22,000
nerd that is a genius this pocket

2836
02:01:27,510 --> 02:01:24,880
protecting greasy hair comb over white

2837
02:01:29,270 --> 02:01:27,520
t-shirt wearing like or white button up

2838
02:01:31,350 --> 02:01:29,280
whatever it is like

2839
02:01:34,149 --> 02:01:31,360
why is that important to me in my life

2840
02:01:36,629 --> 02:01:34,159
right now to that i dreamt about him

2841
02:01:39,510 --> 02:01:36,639
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

2842
02:01:41,350 --> 02:01:39,520
um and i have uh

2843
02:01:43,270 --> 02:01:41,360
i have a sort of direct connection back

2844
02:01:45,430 --> 02:01:43,280
to him one of my best friends uh

2845
02:01:47,910 --> 02:01:45,440
actually lived next door to him that was

2846
02:01:49,750 --> 02:01:47,920
so wow

2847
02:01:51,270 --> 02:01:49,760
our neighborhood i've only got 30

2848
02:01:52,950 --> 02:01:51,280
seconds

2849
02:01:55,030 --> 02:01:52,960
where we all grew up you know high

2850
02:01:57,990 --> 02:01:55,040
school all of our friends and everything

2851
02:01:59,030 --> 02:01:58,000
and then i go to work at bell labs and

2852
02:02:03,669 --> 02:01:59,040
um

2853
02:02:05,430 --> 02:02:03,679
which was uh miles away and i'm sitting

2854
02:02:07,350 --> 02:02:05,440
over at my friend's house his name is

2855
02:02:09,669 --> 02:02:07,360
jim i'm sitting over there one day and i

2856
02:02:11,750 --> 02:02:09,679
said yeah man so today at work you know

2857
02:02:14,070 --> 02:02:11,760
blah blah blah charlie clouser da da da

2858
02:02:16,950 --> 02:02:14,080
da da and he goes charlie clowser i go

2859
02:02:19,990 --> 02:02:16,960
yeah from from bell labs yeah

2860
02:02:22,070 --> 02:02:20,000
dude he lives next door

2861
02:02:23,910 --> 02:02:22,080
the goober next door yeah i'm like

2862
02:02:26,149 --> 02:02:23,920
what's the media lives next door next

2863
02:02:28,550 --> 02:02:26,159
door let's go say hi

2864
02:02:30,709 --> 02:02:28,560
and and we walked out walked over in the

2865
02:02:33,430 --> 02:02:30,719
door he opens church what's up i'm like

2866
02:02:35,350 --> 02:02:33,440
klauser you look like jordan mccleester

2867
02:02:38,950 --> 02:02:35,360
yeah i've lived here my you know and i

2868
02:02:40,790 --> 02:02:38,960
was like what is going on here

2869
02:02:43,669 --> 02:02:40,800
and uh it was funny because i saw

2870
02:02:47,510 --> 02:02:43,679
charlie closer's five kids

2871
02:02:48,870 --> 02:02:47,520
all wearing pocket protectors

2872
02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:48,880
okay

2873
02:02:52,950 --> 02:02:50,800
i just think it's so cool because

2874
02:02:55,030 --> 02:02:52,960
because the if this were my dream it's

2875
02:02:56,950 --> 02:02:55,040
like there's the jimmy church character

2876
02:02:58,550 --> 02:02:56,960
that is this like he loves guitars and

2877
02:03:01,189 --> 02:02:58,560
he's this cool dude with this great

2878
02:03:04,870 --> 02:03:01,199
voice you're the opposite exact opposite

2879
02:03:06,870 --> 02:03:04,880
of the goobery um like nerdy dude and

2880
02:03:08,950 --> 02:03:06,880
yet he's in your dream i think sometimes

2881
02:03:10,709 --> 02:03:08,960
it's we have these dreams about these

2882
02:03:12,070 --> 02:03:10,719
random people

2883
02:03:13,990 --> 02:03:12,080
because they're they're a part of

2884
02:03:16,629 --> 02:03:14,000
ourselves and then by embracing that

2885
02:03:19,030 --> 02:03:16,639
like clearly there's an inner goober in

2886
02:03:20,629 --> 02:03:19,040
all of us and how much better off we

2887
02:03:22,229 --> 02:03:20,639
would all be if we embraced it instead

2888
02:03:23,109 --> 02:03:22,239
of saying no no no i'm too cool for

2889
02:03:24,709 --> 02:03:23,119
school

2890
02:03:25,589 --> 02:03:24,719
you know i don't need any of that it's

2891
02:03:27,669 --> 02:03:25,599
like

2892
02:03:30,790 --> 02:03:27,679
the more of that the better you could

2893
02:03:34,390 --> 02:03:30,800
still be cool and be like you know

2894
02:03:36,550 --> 02:03:34,400
the goober of the of the planet

2895
02:03:37,750 --> 02:03:36,560
right right here i've i've got to uh

2896
02:03:41,750 --> 02:03:37,760
i've got to pay

2897
02:03:44,470 --> 02:03:41,760
let's do that now our guest tonight the

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02:03:47,189 --> 02:03:44,480
one and only kelly sullivan walden we

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02:03:48,870 --> 02:03:47,199
are talking about tonight the secrets of

2900
02:03:50,870 --> 02:03:48,880
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break i'm your host jimmy church stay

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this is fade to black with jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network

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welcome back fade to black i am your

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02:09:39,830 --> 02:09:36,719
host jimmy church

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02:09:42,390 --> 02:09:39,840
don't worry i'm letting everybody know

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02:09:44,870 --> 02:09:42,400
including kelly we're doing overtime

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02:09:46,790 --> 02:09:44,880
tonight with kelly that's that's it

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there's just no way

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02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:48,480
uh uh tell

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02:10:00,550 --> 02:09:58,629
hey did you see um uh did you see

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02:10:04,390 --> 02:10:00,560
uh stranger things

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02:10:08,390 --> 02:10:04,400
oh no should i see it was it great

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02:10:12,629 --> 02:10:09,990
i'll have to binge it between now and

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02:10:16,390 --> 02:10:12,639
the next time we talk it's it's it's all

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02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:16,400
about dreams right and and and the

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02:10:22,709 --> 02:10:19,840
upside down oh my god okay

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02:10:24,950 --> 02:10:22,719
i promise you i promise it's five or six

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02:10:29,350 --> 02:10:24,960
seasons now um that you you've got to

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02:10:31,990 --> 02:10:30,310
yeah

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02:10:35,189 --> 02:10:32,000
you have to check it out anyway oh i'm

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02:10:38,069 --> 02:10:35,199
excited okay cool that's my t-shirt

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02:10:42,950 --> 02:10:38,079
my oh my satanic t-shirt the hellfire

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02:10:45,189 --> 02:10:42,960
club and um now so the hellfire club um

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02:10:47,109 --> 02:10:45,199
for those that watch uh

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02:10:49,109 --> 02:10:47,119
uh stranger things are laughing at this

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02:10:52,069 --> 02:10:49,119
shirt because they know how badass this

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02:10:58,229 --> 02:10:54,550
the dungeons and dragons

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02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:58,239
geek nerd club at the high school right

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you know the

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02:11:04,149 --> 02:11:01,520
they're not the cool crowd

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02:11:06,550 --> 02:11:04,159
they're the dungeons and dragons crowd

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02:11:08,870 --> 02:11:06,560
and their club is called the hellfire

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02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:08,880
club so they wear these t-shirts in

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02:11:13,830 --> 02:11:10,880
stranger things you know the hellfire

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02:11:16,870 --> 02:11:13,840
club and i had to get one and i got me a

3047
02:11:19,350 --> 02:11:16,880
freaking hellfire oh that's so cool okay

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02:11:21,990 --> 02:11:19,360
well i am going to binge it and by the

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02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:22,000
next time i see you i i hopefully will

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02:11:25,189 --> 02:11:23,840
be all cut up you're going to be wearing

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02:11:26,629 --> 02:11:25,199
one of these i hear you can get them in

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02:11:28,870 --> 02:11:26,639
blue so

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02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:28,880
you'll be just fine okay

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02:11:34,310 --> 02:11:31,920
now um i i i wanted to

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02:11:36,870 --> 02:11:34,320
uh i wanted to do this

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02:11:39,830 --> 02:11:36,880
i want you to check this out because

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02:11:42,550 --> 02:11:39,840
i think this is so important and

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02:11:44,790 --> 02:11:42,560
um and here's the question

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and it's from monica great night jimmy

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02:11:50,229 --> 02:11:48,000
ask about premonition and dreams dreams

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that come true that's the number you

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02:11:55,030 --> 02:11:51,920
know out of out of everything else you

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02:11:56,870 --> 02:11:55,040
know sleep you know uh night terrors

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02:11:59,350 --> 02:11:56,880
nightmare

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02:12:01,750 --> 02:11:59,360
what about premonitions and dreams that

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02:12:05,109 --> 02:12:01,760
come true it's got to be like the number

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one subject that you get asked about

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02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:08,239
yeah it definitely it's it's up there

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02:12:10,950 --> 02:12:09,040
and

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here's what i know about it but we

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02:12:17,430 --> 02:12:13,440
talked about earlier in the show that

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02:12:21,109 --> 02:12:17,440
dreams take place in non-local reality

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02:12:24,390 --> 02:12:21,119
we're we're outside of time in dreams

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02:12:26,229 --> 02:12:24,400
dreams don't differentiate between past

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02:12:29,350 --> 02:12:26,239
present and future it's all one big

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02:12:30,470 --> 02:12:29,360
swirl it's all happening simultaneously

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so

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it's but there's a shamanic belief that

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we dream everything

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before it happens in our third dimension

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the the most important things it's and

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02:12:44,870 --> 02:12:43,440
if we don't remember

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02:12:46,550 --> 02:12:44,880
those kind of dreams it's not because

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02:12:48,470 --> 02:12:46,560
they didn't happen it's because we

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02:12:50,790 --> 02:12:48,480
didn't remember them there's a lot of

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02:12:52,709 --> 02:12:50,800
dreams that are really important that we

3087
02:12:55,270 --> 02:12:52,719
just miss we wake up in the morning and

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02:12:57,030 --> 02:12:55,280
it's like it's completely gone

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02:12:59,910 --> 02:12:57,040
so how do we

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02:13:01,669 --> 02:12:59,920
know if it's a premonition dream

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if you are somebody who takes your

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02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:03,920
dreams and i always like to say if you

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02:13:08,069 --> 02:13:06,719
don't take your dreams lying down but um

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02:13:09,990 --> 02:13:08,079
if you're somebody who takes your dreams

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02:13:12,229 --> 02:13:10,000
seriously in other words and you start

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02:13:15,270 --> 02:13:12,239
to track your dreams you can start to

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02:13:16,470 --> 02:13:15,280
detect a theme in the way that you dream

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02:13:20,229 --> 02:13:16,480
and my

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02:13:22,790 --> 02:13:20,239
my hunch is that when when is that we

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02:13:24,950 --> 02:13:22,800
all have premonition dreams and we all

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02:13:26,629 --> 02:13:24,960
have a certain way

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that those dreams show up there's always

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some kind of a theme for example

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um kathleen canvas who you might know

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02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:33,040
you might have interviewed her she's

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02:13:37,910 --> 02:13:35,440
somebody who had several premonition

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02:13:39,430 --> 02:13:37,920
dreams about the the cancer that was

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02:13:41,750 --> 02:13:39,440
found in her breast even though she kept

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02:13:43,830 --> 02:13:41,760
getting a clean bill of health she was

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02:13:45,589 --> 02:13:43,840
getting mammogram after mammogram and

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02:13:48,310 --> 02:13:45,599
there was this crazy

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like intense monk franciscan monk that

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02:13:53,030 --> 02:13:49,920
kept showing up in her dream pointing at

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02:13:54,550 --> 02:13:53,040
her breast and she kept going back in

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02:13:56,870 --> 02:13:54,560
and she eventually

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02:13:59,430 --> 02:13:56,880
demanded exploratory surgery just so she

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02:14:00,790 --> 02:13:59,440
could stop this recurring dream from

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02:14:02,069 --> 02:14:00,800
happening and it turned out she had

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02:14:03,750 --> 02:14:02,079
stage four

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02:14:06,149 --> 02:14:03,760
cancer in her breast that was not

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02:14:08,390 --> 02:14:06,159
detected by any of the medical devices

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02:14:10,629 --> 02:14:08,400
she was able to get a mastectomy and she

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02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:10,639
she lived but it was like the doctor

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02:14:14,390 --> 02:14:12,320
said had they not caught it it would

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02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:14,400
have been like it would have taken her

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02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,119
out so this was a premonition dream it

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02:14:22,390 --> 02:14:19,199
was also a recurring dream

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02:14:24,950 --> 02:14:22,400
so now after this this monk will show up

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02:14:26,709 --> 02:14:24,960
in her dreams and she knows it's a dream

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02:14:28,310 --> 02:14:26,719
worth paying attention to she knows it's

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02:14:30,069 --> 02:14:28,320
usually about something that's about to

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02:14:32,069 --> 02:14:30,079
happen there's some people that have

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02:14:34,390 --> 02:14:32,079
premonition dreams that take place in a

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02:14:36,470 --> 02:14:34,400
theater or there's always some character

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02:14:37,750 --> 02:14:36,480
or there's some certain feeling that

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02:14:38,870 --> 02:14:37,760
comes over them when they have that

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02:14:41,510 --> 02:14:38,880
dream so

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02:14:43,990 --> 02:14:41,520
how do we know it's a premonition dream

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02:14:46,629 --> 02:14:44,000
we don't know until it plays out in

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02:14:48,870 --> 02:14:46,639
waking reality but once we see okay wait

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02:14:51,109 --> 02:14:48,880
a minute i was in that theater or i was

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02:14:54,229 --> 02:14:51,119
with that friend from high school or i

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02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:54,239
was on that bike or i had that guitar

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02:14:58,470 --> 02:14:56,639
that purple polka dotted guitar whatever

3145
02:15:01,109 --> 02:14:58,480
that was it's like that's like part of

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02:15:02,629 --> 02:15:01,119
your dream speak letting you know that

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02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:02,639
that that you're that you've entered

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02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:04,000
that portal

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02:15:08,069 --> 02:15:05,760
so we all have them it's just important

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02:15:10,149 --> 02:15:08,079
to pay attention to what the themes are

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02:15:12,550 --> 02:15:10,159
and i would say if it feels like a

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02:15:14,390 --> 02:15:12,560
strong dream that relates to something

3153
02:15:16,629 --> 02:15:14,400
that you know is coming up or something

3154
02:15:18,390 --> 02:15:16,639
that's around the corner then consider

3155
02:15:20,709 --> 02:15:18,400
that it might be a premonition dream and

3156
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:20,719
maybe act on it so maybe you can change

3157
02:15:24,390 --> 02:15:21,760
things

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02:15:27,669 --> 02:15:24,400
i have a i have a silly example not a

3159
02:15:30,709 --> 02:15:27,679
maybe not silly but um my mom

3160
02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:30,719
had a dream about a man on a tractor

3161
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:33,280
that fell to his death and what was

3162
02:15:37,270 --> 02:15:35,119
strange about that was that we lived in

3163
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,280
a in a suburb there was never we never

3164
02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:39,520
saw tractors but it was very clearly

3165
02:15:43,510 --> 02:15:41,440
across the street from the house she

3166
02:15:45,669 --> 02:15:43,520
woke up in the morning and saw a man on

3167
02:15:47,990 --> 02:15:45,679
a freaking tractor in front of the house

3168
02:15:50,069 --> 02:15:48,000
and she was like that just never happens

3169
02:15:51,030 --> 02:15:50,079
it's never happened once in her whole

3170
02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:51,040
life

3171
02:15:55,189 --> 02:15:52,800
so she knew something was gonna happen

3172
02:15:57,669 --> 02:15:55,199
to this guy because of this dream so

3173
02:16:00,629 --> 02:15:57,679
in her curlers and in her crazy night

3174
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:00,639
outfit like coal cream on her face she

3175
02:16:04,390 --> 02:16:02,639
walked across the street and said i

3176
02:16:05,589 --> 02:16:04,400
don't mean to scare you

3177
02:16:07,750 --> 02:16:05,599
but

3178
02:16:10,470 --> 02:16:07,760
i had a dream about somebody on a

3179
02:16:11,830 --> 02:16:10,480
tractor and it didn't go well so i want

3180
02:16:13,830 --> 02:16:11,840
to just tell you this so that you're

3181
02:16:15,830 --> 02:16:13,840
just very careful

3182
02:16:17,990 --> 02:16:15,840
and nothing happened there was no

3183
02:16:19,669 --> 02:16:18,000
incident but it might have been her

3184
02:16:21,270 --> 02:16:19,679
giving him that little bit of warning

3185
02:16:23,510 --> 02:16:21,280
that might have made a difference how

3186
02:16:24,709 --> 02:16:23,520
will we ever know right right was that

3187
02:16:26,950 --> 02:16:24,719
in whittier

3188
02:16:30,390 --> 02:16:26,960
yes it was

3189
02:16:32,389 --> 02:16:30,400
did you grow up in whittier i did okay

3190
02:16:35,830 --> 02:16:32,399
wait i'm gonna take a wild guess

3191
02:16:38,150 --> 02:16:35,840
this is why i do not i guarantee

3192
02:16:40,549 --> 02:16:38,160
that we have never had this conversation

3193
02:16:41,429 --> 02:16:40,559
pioneer high school

3194
02:16:44,709 --> 02:16:41,439
no

3195
02:16:46,549 --> 02:16:44,719
but close because we played my high

3196
02:16:49,270 --> 02:16:46,559
school i was at california high school

3197
02:16:50,950 --> 02:16:49,280
you're a california high school how high

3198
02:16:54,150 --> 02:16:50,960
oh we played pioneer did you go to

3199
02:16:55,910 --> 02:16:54,160
pioneer no but i i hung out you know all

3200
02:16:58,629 --> 02:16:55,920
of my friends are from there

3201
02:17:01,349 --> 02:16:58,639
you know bishop of the world school and

3202
02:17:04,309 --> 02:17:01,359
and uh you know covina

3203
02:17:06,549 --> 02:17:04,319
whittier grew up in west covina oh i i

3204
02:17:09,830 --> 02:17:06,559
spent my time in pasadena but my band

3205
02:17:11,910 --> 02:17:09,840
rehearsed in in la puente oh my god

3206
02:17:14,309 --> 02:17:11,920
that's right over the hill from whittier

3207
02:17:16,309 --> 02:17:14,319
that's that's that's the hood right

3208
02:17:19,270 --> 02:17:16,319
that's good

3209
02:17:21,429 --> 02:17:19,280
and uh so yeah chewy from la puente you

3210
02:17:23,030 --> 02:17:21,439
know you know who um you remember the

3211
02:17:25,589 --> 02:17:23,040
band striper

3212
02:17:29,110 --> 02:17:25,599
yeah they were from pioneer high school

3213
02:17:31,110 --> 02:17:29,120
they were all of them like all that's

3214
02:17:32,870 --> 02:17:31,120
cool they were pioneering i don't think

3215
02:17:36,709 --> 02:17:32,880
anybody came out of california high

3216
02:17:38,549 --> 02:17:36,719
school except you know except for you

3217
02:17:40,629 --> 02:17:38,559
barely

3218
02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:40,639
i just love whittier though i i do i

3219
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:43,519
love that part of the world um it's uh

3220
02:17:48,070 --> 02:17:45,519
it's a great part of l.a and you know

3221
02:17:49,589 --> 02:17:48,080
what though it used to be this is what's

3222
02:17:51,830 --> 02:17:49,599
trippy to me

3223
02:17:54,549 --> 02:17:51,840
um that whole area

3224
02:17:55,669 --> 02:17:54,559
used to be the country

3225
02:17:59,429 --> 02:17:55,679
right

3226
02:18:01,830 --> 02:17:59,439
that was way out that was that was

3227
02:18:04,950 --> 02:18:01,840
orange groves yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

3228
02:18:06,309 --> 02:18:04,960
yeah now it it's it's los angeles it's

3229
02:18:07,270 --> 02:18:06,319
all expected

3230
02:18:09,429 --> 02:18:07,280
yeah

3231
02:18:14,150 --> 02:18:09,439
pretty soon palm springs is going to be

3232
02:18:18,950 --> 02:18:16,709
isn't it weird though how it used to be

3233
02:18:21,030 --> 02:18:18,960
man we're going wittier what why would

3234
02:18:23,270 --> 02:18:21,040
you go way the hell out there now it's

3235
02:18:25,990 --> 02:18:23,280
down the street right

3236
02:18:27,110 --> 02:18:26,000
exactly weird so weird okay

3237
02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:27,120
uh

3238
02:18:32,309 --> 02:18:30,559
next okay wait speaking of the of fade

3239
02:18:34,389 --> 02:18:32,319
to black though do you know who's from

3240
02:18:36,469 --> 02:18:34,399
whittier that you might

3241
02:18:39,030 --> 02:18:36,479
you ever hear of elvira

3242
02:18:41,349 --> 02:18:39,040
yes of course elvira mistress of the

3243
02:18:43,910 --> 02:18:41,359
dark she's from whittier

3244
02:18:45,830 --> 02:18:43,920
and so is richard nixon so there

3245
02:18:48,150 --> 02:18:45,840
maybe they were an item i'll never say

3246
02:18:50,950 --> 02:18:48,160
i'm not starting any rumors but

3247
02:18:53,589 --> 02:18:50,960
tricky dicky and elvira

3248
02:18:54,549 --> 02:18:53,599
pioneer high school

3249
02:18:57,429 --> 02:18:54,559
who knew

3250
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:57,439
hey elvira kind of hot back in the day

3251
02:19:00,469 --> 02:18:59,519
i'm just going to give the day

3252
02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:00,479
something

3253
02:19:04,549 --> 02:19:01,840
i i don't know

3254
02:19:07,509 --> 02:19:04,559
what it was the opposite of anything

3255
02:19:08,790 --> 02:19:07,519
that uh i was ever attracted to right

3256
02:19:12,950 --> 02:19:08,800
yeah

3257
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:15,110
the makeup and and

3258
02:19:17,990 --> 02:19:16,240
but

3259
02:19:20,469 --> 02:19:18,000
there was something about

3260
02:19:26,629 --> 02:19:20,479
that image that that worked

3261
02:19:31,270 --> 02:19:28,870
from elvira to

3262
02:19:34,230 --> 02:19:31,280
where do we go from there drugs let's

3263
02:19:37,349 --> 02:19:34,240
talk about drugs let's talk about drugs

3264
02:19:41,030 --> 02:19:37,359
yeah drugs and dreaming you know and

3265
02:19:43,030 --> 02:19:41,040
and it's so funny how i can be around

3266
02:19:44,709 --> 02:19:43,040
friends and we'll we'll talk about

3267
02:19:47,349 --> 02:19:44,719
dreams and we do

3268
02:19:48,790 --> 02:19:47,359
and and then i'll have somebody say well

3269
02:19:52,070 --> 02:19:48,800
you know what you know what really helps

3270
02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:52,080
me really dream is i do this this and

3271
02:19:56,710 --> 02:19:54,080
this or i'll have somebody else say no

3272
02:19:58,550 --> 02:19:56,720
not that you want to do this or somebody

3273
02:20:01,590 --> 02:19:58,560
else will say no this and i'll somebody

3274
02:20:03,670 --> 02:20:01,600
else go no you don't want to do anything

3275
02:20:07,510 --> 02:20:03,680
you know so

3276
02:20:10,870 --> 02:20:07,520
what's the deal there is is there a

3277
02:20:14,150 --> 02:20:10,880
a drug or an enhancer of some kind i you

3278
02:20:16,630 --> 02:20:14,160
know drug is an is a overarching term

3279
02:20:18,790 --> 02:20:16,640
that i'm using here but is there an

3280
02:20:21,510 --> 02:20:18,800
enhancement uh

3281
02:20:23,110 --> 02:20:21,520
tea is there a is there an herb tea you

3282
02:20:26,389 --> 02:20:23,120
can drink people

3283
02:20:27,270 --> 02:20:26,399
oh definitely mugwort is supposed to be

3284
02:20:28,550 --> 02:20:27,280
great

3285
02:20:30,309 --> 02:20:28,560
and um

3286
02:20:32,950 --> 02:20:30,319
and chamomile of course anything that

3287
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:32,960
relaxes you anything with tryptophan

3288
02:20:38,550 --> 02:20:36,000
so you know after thanksgiving dinner if

3289
02:20:40,309 --> 02:20:38,560
you've if you if you are a carnivore

3290
02:20:42,389 --> 02:20:40,319
you'll have um you'll

3291
02:20:44,790 --> 02:20:42,399
it'll tend to you'll tend to dream more

3292
02:20:48,150 --> 02:20:44,800
because you you fall asleep

3293
02:20:49,990 --> 02:20:48,160
a little bit more relaxed vitamin b6

3294
02:20:52,230 --> 02:20:50,000
is helpful and

3295
02:20:53,349 --> 02:20:52,240
i don't know if it's true exactly i

3296
02:20:55,510 --> 02:20:53,359
don't know i don't think there's ever

3297
02:20:57,590 --> 02:20:55,520
been a clinical study but some people

3298
02:20:59,429 --> 02:20:57,600
swear by peanut butter

3299
02:21:00,230 --> 02:20:59,439
a little scoop of peanut butter before

3300
02:21:01,990 --> 02:21:00,240
bed

3301
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,000
i think what it does is that because

3302
02:21:05,990 --> 02:21:04,319
it's got mostly protein if it's not like

3303
02:21:07,830 --> 02:21:06,000
a real sugary peanut butter it

3304
02:21:09,830 --> 02:21:07,840
stabilizes your blood sugar and it helps

3305
02:21:11,830 --> 02:21:09,840
you to stay stable so that you don't

3306
02:21:13,270 --> 02:21:11,840
have all these spikes in the night

3307
02:21:15,510 --> 02:21:13,280
because sometimes when our blood sugar

3308
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:15,520
drops then we'll have this kind of

3309
02:21:19,590 --> 02:21:17,359
adrenalized

3310
02:21:21,349 --> 02:21:19,600
jerking awake and then we and that kind

3311
02:21:22,469 --> 02:21:21,359
of disrupts the sleep

3312
02:21:24,309 --> 02:21:22,479
but

3313
02:21:26,070 --> 02:21:24,319
now on the other side of things a lot of

3314
02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:26,080
people will drink before they go to

3315
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:27,920
sleep it's like having a night cap is a

3316
02:21:33,110 --> 02:21:31,040
very common thing or having or smoking

3317
02:21:35,349 --> 02:21:33,120
pot before going to sleep and that will

3318
02:21:37,590 --> 02:21:35,359
help you go to sleep but it doesn't help

3319
02:21:40,230 --> 02:21:37,600
you stay asleep so those actually get in

3320
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:40,240
the way of your sleep and it actually it

3321
02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:42,560
gets in the way of your ability to have

3322
02:21:47,110 --> 02:21:45,040
strong dream recall

3323
02:21:49,750 --> 02:21:47,120
sometimes with like with marijuana for

3324
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:49,760
example you'll it just makes it's almost

3325
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:51,680
like there's this fog

3326
02:21:55,270 --> 02:21:53,600
you you have a lot of dreams but it

3327
02:21:57,510 --> 02:21:55,280
becomes really difficult to remember

3328
02:21:59,349 --> 02:21:57,520
them and to recall them and bring them

3329
02:22:01,270 --> 02:21:59,359
into your waking reality so just like

3330
02:22:02,550 --> 02:22:01,280
what you said you were kind of sounded

3331
02:22:04,710 --> 02:22:02,560
like you were joking and i don't know if

3332
02:22:07,190 --> 02:22:04,720
you were or not but it's kind of true

3333
02:22:09,910 --> 02:22:07,200
the most the best thing is to

3334
02:22:12,309 --> 02:22:09,920
find the most natural way to get to

3335
02:22:14,150 --> 02:22:12,319
sleep and a dream and that's the best

3336
02:22:17,030 --> 02:22:14,160
and one way to do that and here's just a

3337
02:22:20,309 --> 02:22:17,040
very simple thing it's to not go to bed

3338
02:22:21,910 --> 02:22:20,319
angry not go to bed resentful if you can

3339
02:22:24,389 --> 02:22:21,920
like do some journaling if you're if

3340
02:22:27,510 --> 02:22:24,399
you're upset about something try not to

3341
02:22:29,429 --> 02:22:27,520
sleep inside of that energy i know if

3342
02:22:31,110 --> 02:22:29,439
i'm upset if somebody says something to

3343
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:31,120
me if i get an argument with somebody in

3344
02:22:35,110 --> 02:22:33,359
my family or whatever i know i need to

3345
02:22:37,990 --> 02:22:35,120
journal about it and get it out of my

3346
02:22:39,590 --> 02:22:38,000
system so that i'm not spending my sleep

3347
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:39,600
time and dream time

3348
02:22:43,270 --> 02:22:41,680
cycling through that it's like do some

3349
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:43,280
journaling to clear it so that you can

3350
02:22:47,510 --> 02:22:45,439
spend your sleep and dream time in a

3351
02:22:49,190 --> 02:22:47,520
more peaceful way and i would always say

3352
02:22:50,469 --> 02:22:49,200
and there's actually some science behind

3353
02:22:52,550 --> 02:22:50,479
this

3354
02:22:54,630 --> 02:22:52,560
if you if you have are having a

3355
02:22:56,389 --> 02:22:54,640
difficult time sleeping and you wake

3356
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:56,399
yourself up

3357
02:23:00,630 --> 02:22:58,560
you should do some journaling journaling

3358
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:00,640
is a great way to get back to sleep but

3359
02:23:04,950 --> 02:23:03,280
to have your journaling conclude with a

3360
02:23:07,030 --> 02:23:04,960
gratitude list

3361
02:23:09,429 --> 02:23:07,040
so if you have like a make a gratitude

3362
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:09,439
list of let's say five or ten things

3363
02:23:13,750 --> 02:23:11,920
what it does is it triggers serotonin in

3364
02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:13,760
the brain and serotonin is that

3365
02:23:17,910 --> 02:23:15,200
feel-good

3366
02:23:19,510 --> 02:23:17,920
chemical that calms you down and has you

3367
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:19,520
it gives you the impression even if

3368
02:23:23,990 --> 02:23:21,359
there's all kinds of chaos going on in

3369
02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:24,000
your life that that gratitude kicking in

3370
02:23:28,389 --> 02:23:26,080
the serotonin has you feel that you're

3371
02:23:30,070 --> 02:23:28,399
going to be okay it's like ah i must be

3372
02:23:32,469 --> 02:23:30,080
okay if i'm grateful for all these

3373
02:23:34,230 --> 02:23:32,479
things then then i've i'm not i'm not in

3374
02:23:36,309 --> 02:23:34,240
panic mode i'll be able to sleep and

3375
02:23:37,910 --> 02:23:36,319
dream better so

3376
02:23:40,550 --> 02:23:37,920
it's a simple thing you can do yeah

3377
02:23:45,110 --> 02:23:40,560
probably a good solid 10 years of my

3378
02:23:47,830 --> 02:23:45,120
life from the age of 20 to maybe 30 32

3379
02:23:51,110 --> 02:23:47,840
um i smoked pot that was the last thing

3380
02:23:53,349 --> 02:23:51,120
i did before i got into bed and i

3381
02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:53,359
assumed

3382
02:23:57,429 --> 02:23:55,280
that i was dreaming better and i was

3383
02:23:59,750 --> 02:23:57,439
having better sleep and

3384
02:24:02,630 --> 02:23:59,760
it turned into a crutch

3385
02:24:06,389 --> 02:24:02,640
i can't eat this yes

3386
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:06,399
today where i have now lived

3387
02:24:11,349 --> 02:24:10,479
uh nearly 20 years pot-free

3388
02:24:13,990 --> 02:24:11,359
whoa

3389
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:14,000
it's not that i'm against pot i love pot

3390
02:24:17,190 --> 02:24:15,200
it's just that

3391
02:24:18,950 --> 02:24:17,200
i i can't work and

3392
02:24:29,670 --> 02:24:18,960
i can't

3393
02:24:30,790 --> 02:24:29,680
so that's why i love

3394
02:24:32,550 --> 02:24:30,800
but

3395
02:24:35,670 --> 02:24:32,560
my dreams

3396
02:24:37,670 --> 02:24:35,680
that i now that i live this this uh

3397
02:24:40,830 --> 02:24:37,680
purified existence

3398
02:24:43,590 --> 02:24:40,840
um my dreams today are

3399
02:24:45,510 --> 02:24:43,600
easily uh

3400
02:24:48,389 --> 02:24:45,520
mega folding

3401
02:24:50,630 --> 02:24:48,399
at times more magnificent

3402
02:24:52,070 --> 02:24:50,640
than than when i was smoking weed every

3403
02:24:54,630 --> 02:24:52,080
night

3404
02:24:57,750 --> 02:24:54,640
yeah and i'm not so sure

3405
02:25:00,150 --> 02:24:57,760
um because i enjoy dreaming high

3406
02:25:02,710 --> 02:25:00,160
i enjoy sleeping high

3407
02:25:04,469 --> 02:25:02,720
you know i like watching tv high before

3408
02:25:07,590 --> 02:25:04,479
you fall asleep man that was a great

3409
02:25:09,670 --> 02:25:07,600
thing but absolutely absolutely it's a

3410
02:25:14,389 --> 02:25:09,680
distant memory it may it may have been

3411
02:25:15,349 --> 02:25:14,399
an illusion because i certainly enjoy uh

3412
02:25:18,550 --> 02:25:15,359
uh

3413
02:25:19,990 --> 02:25:18,560
dreaming now and i and i have full

3414
02:25:20,870 --> 02:25:20,000
full recall

3415
02:25:22,870 --> 02:25:20,880
um

3416
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:22,880
before before we get to the break no

3417
02:25:26,710 --> 02:25:25,040
don't answer because i've got too many

3418
02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:26,720
i've got too many things i've been

3419
02:25:32,790 --> 02:25:29,680
listing here because of you tonight okay

3420
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,800
um uh and now i forgot my next

3421
02:25:50,220 --> 02:25:34,880
i forgot my thanks

3422
02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:54,430
[Laughter]

3423
02:25:57,910 --> 02:25:55,680
[Music]

3424
02:26:00,389 --> 02:25:57,920
it's the last thing that i do in my life

3425
02:26:01,510 --> 02:26:00,399
i don't do anything funny anymore is um

3426
02:26:03,110 --> 02:26:01,520
what about

3427
02:26:05,910 --> 02:26:03,120
eating though

3428
02:26:07,349 --> 02:26:05,920
oh yeah people say hey man italian food

3429
02:26:10,230 --> 02:26:07,359
before you go to bed

3430
02:26:12,630 --> 02:26:10,240
dreams ever some say mexican food

3431
02:26:14,469 --> 02:26:12,640
some say you've got to have a big mac

3432
02:26:16,309 --> 02:26:14,479
and fries and a chocolate cake before

3433
02:26:19,030 --> 02:26:16,319
you go to bed

3434
02:26:22,070 --> 02:26:19,040
and so what about eating

3435
02:26:24,710 --> 02:26:22,080
so from the perspective that

3436
02:26:26,790 --> 02:26:24,720
our dreams are really sacred our dreams

3437
02:26:28,790 --> 02:26:26,800
are really important there's some

3438
02:26:32,630 --> 02:26:28,800
dreaming tribes that

3439
02:26:35,830 --> 02:26:32,640
that say that we should live our lives

3440
02:26:37,110 --> 02:26:35,840
in such a way to support us having the

3441
02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:37,120
best

3442
02:26:40,950 --> 02:26:39,760
dreams possible so if we were to if that

3443
02:26:43,429 --> 02:26:40,960
was the goal

3444
02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:43,439
then we wouldn't we definitely wouldn't

3445
02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:45,520
eat a heavy meal

3446
02:26:49,830 --> 02:26:47,840
we would have at least three to four

3447
02:26:51,510 --> 02:26:49,840
hours before we go to sleep we would

3448
02:26:53,830 --> 02:26:51,520
like let's say if you go to sleep at 10

3449
02:26:56,150 --> 02:26:53,840
o'clock then you would you wouldn't eat

3450
02:26:56,950 --> 02:26:56,160
anything after seven o'clock because it

3451
02:27:01,110 --> 02:26:56,960
that

3452
02:27:03,349 --> 02:27:01,120
it's like there's kind of a sludge going

3453
02:27:05,750 --> 02:27:03,359
on in your brain and your body there's

3454
02:27:08,070 --> 02:27:05,760
it means that you're kind of distracted

3455
02:27:09,910 --> 02:27:08,080
but if you've mostly digested your food

3456
02:27:12,070 --> 02:27:09,920
and you go to sleep and you're and

3457
02:27:14,150 --> 02:27:12,080
you're kind of your body's feeling light

3458
02:27:16,389 --> 02:27:14,160
then you'll tend to have better dreams

3459
02:27:18,710 --> 02:27:16,399
you'll tend to have dreams that are

3460
02:27:19,990 --> 02:27:18,720
where you get to take off and go into

3461
02:27:21,670 --> 02:27:20,000
kind of what we were talking about at

3462
02:27:24,230 --> 02:27:21,680
the very beginning of this show jimmy

3463
02:27:27,510 --> 02:27:24,240
about going beyond your mind beyond your

3464
02:27:29,429 --> 02:27:27,520
circumstances and kind of exploring

3465
02:27:31,349 --> 02:27:29,439
the vastness of your consciousness but

3466
02:27:33,670 --> 02:27:31,359
if you're heavy laden if you've had a

3467
02:27:35,510 --> 02:27:33,680
big heavy dessert eating a whole

3468
02:27:36,870 --> 02:27:35,520
cheesecake before you go to bed you're

3469
02:27:39,510 --> 02:27:36,880
going to be having nightmares you're

3470
02:27:41,750 --> 02:27:39,520
going to be it's like your indigestion

3471
02:27:44,230 --> 02:27:41,760
your body affects your mind your mind

3472
02:27:47,110 --> 02:27:44,240
affects your body so if your body is

3473
02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:47,120
like sitting there curdling it's it's

3474
02:27:51,750 --> 02:27:49,359
going to curdle your dreams so you you

3475
02:27:53,429 --> 02:27:51,760
want to have you want to have lightness

3476
02:27:55,190 --> 02:27:53,439
before you go to sleep if you if you

3477
02:27:57,190 --> 02:27:55,200
need to have i think this is where the

3478
02:27:59,190 --> 02:27:57,200
pro the the peanut butter piece comes in

3479
02:28:00,469 --> 02:27:59,200
because if you need to have something in

3480
02:28:03,110 --> 02:28:00,479
your belly so that you're not going to

3481
02:28:06,230 --> 02:28:03,120
sleep hungry then something that is like

3482
02:28:08,790 --> 02:28:06,240
a protein snack that's not too high in

3483
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:08,800
sugar but mostly like even

3484
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:11,200
a handful of nuts or

3485
02:28:15,110 --> 02:28:13,040
or even a glass of milk something that's

3486
02:28:17,190 --> 02:28:15,120
like high in protein that'll give you

3487
02:28:19,910 --> 02:28:17,200
stabilized blood sugar which will give

3488
02:28:21,510 --> 02:28:19,920
you more access to stabilized dreams

3489
02:28:23,830 --> 02:28:21,520
lots of sugar

3490
02:28:25,910 --> 02:28:23,840
lots of fat lots of carbs is going to

3491
02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:25,920
just send your blood sugar like on a

3492
02:28:29,590 --> 02:28:27,600
wild

3493
02:28:32,389 --> 02:28:29,600
roller coaster ride and your dreams are

3494
02:28:33,670 --> 02:28:32,399
gonna reflect that no cheesecake i wrote

3495
02:28:35,990 --> 02:28:33,680
it down

3496
02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:36,000
three hours before

3497
02:28:41,030 --> 02:28:38,240
three to four hours before no cheesecake

3498
02:28:42,070 --> 02:28:41,040
for you and no none of that fade to

3499
02:28:44,230 --> 02:28:42,080
black

3500
02:28:45,750 --> 02:28:44,240
coffee right away either you want to not

3501
02:28:48,710 --> 02:28:45,760
have any of that like

3502
02:28:51,810 --> 02:28:48,720
i would say like after noon that should

3503
02:28:56,309 --> 02:28:51,820
be your last cup of fade to black

3504
02:29:01,030 --> 02:28:58,870
why is that so funny and as i'm drinking

3505
02:29:02,550 --> 02:29:01,040
my coffee right now before you go to

3506
02:29:05,270 --> 02:29:02,560
sleep for real

3507
02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:05,280
you need to have fade to black dream tea

3508
02:29:08,950 --> 02:29:06,880
jimmy that's the next thing that's the

3509
02:29:11,349 --> 02:29:08,960
next infusion we'll come up with that

3510
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:11,359
together i i can i can have that done i

3511
02:29:14,469 --> 02:29:12,800
can have that done we can have our

3512
02:29:17,030 --> 02:29:14,479
picture on it together

3513
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:17,040
black and blue tea

3514
02:29:23,750 --> 02:29:19,359
so think about it dreams okay hey wait a

3515
02:29:26,630 --> 02:29:23,760
minute okay you just remember that i

3516
02:29:29,349 --> 02:29:26,640
will i got it i can make that happen

3517
02:29:32,309 --> 02:29:29,359
uh okay we're gonna you know what let's

3518
02:29:35,110 --> 02:29:32,319
just get into the break now

3519
02:29:37,030 --> 02:29:35,120
so we can i've i've got a whole list of

3520
02:29:40,150 --> 02:29:37,040
uh of stuff

3521
02:29:42,309 --> 02:29:40,160
that i want to get to also rapid fire

3522
02:29:44,070 --> 02:29:42,319
yeah when we come back after the break

3523
02:29:47,910 --> 02:29:44,080
do you remember

3524
02:29:49,190 --> 02:29:47,920
when i told you about the way that um i

3525
02:29:52,950 --> 02:29:49,200
would

3526
02:29:54,710 --> 02:29:52,960
crawl through a window

3527
02:29:57,429 --> 02:29:54,720
oh yeah i do remember you saying you

3528
02:30:00,950 --> 02:29:57,439
remember that okay yeah i want to circle

3529
02:30:03,030 --> 02:30:00,960
back to that okay talk about deja vus i

3530
02:30:04,550 --> 02:30:03,040
want to talk about dreaming in color and

3531
02:30:05,349 --> 02:30:04,560
black and white

3532
02:30:06,150 --> 02:30:05,359
and

3533
02:30:08,710 --> 02:30:06,160
uh

3534
02:30:11,590 --> 02:30:08,720
well i got cheesecake off of the list

3535
02:30:14,230 --> 02:30:11,600
so we don't have to do that so if we get

3536
02:30:15,830 --> 02:30:14,240
all of that in um in overtime we're

3537
02:30:17,590 --> 02:30:15,840
gonna we're gonna

3538
02:30:19,830 --> 02:30:17,600
have it just we're gonna rock it we'll

3539
02:30:22,070 --> 02:30:19,840
do it wrap this thing up even though i

3540
02:30:25,429 --> 02:30:22,080
haven't watched stranger things yet man

3541
02:30:28,469 --> 02:30:25,439
okay i promise i promise that's a game

3542
02:30:30,389 --> 02:30:28,479
changer right there okay

3543
02:30:33,190 --> 02:30:30,399
this is fade to black our guest not the

3544
02:30:35,349 --> 02:30:33,200
one and only kelly sullivan walden we're

3545
02:30:37,110 --> 02:30:35,359
going into overtime you knew i wasn't

3546
02:30:38,790 --> 02:30:37,120
going to end this show early

3547
02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:38,800
i'll be right back after this short

3548
02:30:48,020 --> 02:30:40,720
break tonight it is

3549
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:03,490
[Music]

3550
02:31:12,790 --> 02:31:04,810
[Applause]

3551
02:31:16,389 --> 02:31:14,870
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of cheesecake left i'm going

3655
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i'm going down in flames tonight

3656
02:36:28,190 --> 02:36:19,840
going down in flames

3657
02:36:34,070 --> 02:36:32,230
a lot of things to to try to pack in uh

3658
02:36:35,270 --> 02:36:34,080
and so i want to go down the list and

3659
02:36:40,790 --> 02:36:35,280
one of

3660
02:36:43,349 --> 02:36:40,800
done this in public before um

3661
02:36:45,510 --> 02:36:43,359
presentations where i've told everybody

3662
02:36:47,830 --> 02:36:45,520
how i enter my dreams and the easiest

3663
02:36:49,750 --> 02:36:47,840
way to do it especially if i'm feeling a

3664
02:36:52,070 --> 02:36:49,760
little frustrated like i drink too much

3665
02:36:56,150 --> 02:36:52,080
coffee before bed

3666
02:36:57,910 --> 02:36:56,160
that i i close my eyes i picture a a

3667
02:37:00,389 --> 02:36:57,920
house it's the same house every time

3668
02:37:04,309 --> 02:37:00,399
it's a one-story house with a window

3669
02:37:05,590 --> 02:37:04,319
and and i go and i try to crawl through

3670
02:37:07,910 --> 02:37:05,600
the window

3671
02:37:09,670 --> 02:37:07,920
right by the time i get through the

3672
02:37:10,550 --> 02:37:09,680
window

3673
02:37:11,349 --> 02:37:10,560
out

3674
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:11,359
right

3675
02:37:15,110 --> 02:37:13,680
i'm out and and and i had asked you i

3676
02:37:17,190 --> 02:37:15,120
said

3677
02:37:19,110 --> 02:37:17,200
would you try that did you ever try it

3678
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:19,120
or did you just did you blow out the

3679
02:37:25,190 --> 02:37:22,560
idea you didn't do it did you sorry

3680
02:37:26,870 --> 02:37:25,200
maybe i'll try it tonight but i'm good

3681
02:37:29,270 --> 02:37:26,880
you should you should

3682
02:37:32,309 --> 02:37:29,280
my fear is uh kelly when i do this

3683
02:37:34,630 --> 02:37:32,319
publicly yeah everybody's closing their

3684
02:37:38,230 --> 02:37:34,640
eyes and then i see you know everybody's

3685
02:37:38,950 --> 02:37:38,240
asleep uh in front of me and i want that

3686
02:37:40,950 --> 02:37:38,960
but

3687
02:37:43,990 --> 02:37:40,960
or they're or they're in the they're in

3688
02:37:45,990 --> 02:37:44,000
some kind of a an alpha slash theta

3689
02:37:47,349 --> 02:37:46,000
state which is a really cool state to be

3690
02:37:49,830 --> 02:37:47,359
and it doesn't look

3691
02:37:51,349 --> 02:37:49,840
exciting with your eyes it just looks

3692
02:37:53,750 --> 02:37:51,359
like everybody's checked out but it's

3693
02:37:56,469 --> 02:37:53,760
actually a really powerful

3694
02:37:58,870 --> 02:37:56,479
brain state to be in but what you've

3695
02:38:01,510 --> 02:37:58,880
done in that is you've created your own

3696
02:38:04,469 --> 02:38:01,520
form of self-hypnosis and everyone can

3697
02:38:06,870 --> 02:38:04,479
do this i mean we can it's like finding

3698
02:38:08,950 --> 02:38:06,880
finding a portal that you that you

3699
02:38:11,510 --> 02:38:08,960
choose i mean you can make it magical it

3700
02:38:13,349 --> 02:38:11,520
can be like in a jungle it can be in a

3701
02:38:15,190 --> 02:38:13,359
sacred valley it could be at the ocean

3702
02:38:17,910 --> 02:38:15,200
you could find like an avatar and i

3703
02:38:19,910 --> 02:38:17,920
suggest that we all do this that we that

3704
02:38:22,630 --> 02:38:19,920
we have that we imagine some very

3705
02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:22,640
powerful being that we call in to help

3706
02:38:28,469 --> 02:38:26,160
us like a helping spirit it can be

3707
02:38:29,910 --> 02:38:28,479
you know grandma from the other side or

3708
02:38:31,830 --> 02:38:29,920
it could be

3709
02:38:34,150 --> 02:38:31,840
jesus or muhammad or i don't know

3710
02:38:35,990 --> 02:38:34,160
whoever whoever feels like a powerful

3711
02:38:38,070 --> 02:38:36,000
being archangel michael a lot of people

3712
02:38:39,510 --> 02:38:38,080
that's kind of like the go-to when when

3713
02:38:41,429 --> 02:38:39,520
you can't think of anything else and

3714
02:38:44,309 --> 02:38:41,439
then think of also a place that you want

3715
02:38:45,349 --> 02:38:44,319
to be that represents your dream scape

3716
02:38:47,590 --> 02:38:45,359
it might be

3717
02:38:49,590 --> 02:38:47,600
magical could be a tunnel whatever it is

3718
02:38:50,870 --> 02:38:49,600
but to have like a person

3719
02:38:53,510 --> 02:38:50,880
and a place

3720
02:38:54,870 --> 02:38:53,520
that represents deep asleep

3721
02:38:57,030 --> 02:38:54,880
and and

3722
02:38:58,389 --> 02:38:57,040
through self-hypnosis self-suggestion

3723
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:58,399
that could be the very place to do it

3724
02:39:02,150 --> 02:39:00,080
and you've just come to this all on your

3725
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:02,160
own jimmy you didn't even need me for

3726
02:39:06,950 --> 02:39:03,359
that i didn't

3727
02:39:09,270 --> 02:39:06,960
what did what okay um share with us

3728
02:39:10,710 --> 02:39:09,280
your secret place that you go to what do

3729
02:39:12,389 --> 02:39:10,720
you do

3730
02:39:13,429 --> 02:39:12,399
i actually do at something that i

3731
02:39:15,349 --> 02:39:13,439
learned when i first i'm a

3732
02:39:16,870 --> 02:39:15,359
hypnotherapist and when i was in

3733
02:39:18,950 --> 02:39:16,880
hypnotherapy training we learned

3734
02:39:22,309 --> 02:39:18,960
self-hypnosis as a way to be able to get

3735
02:39:24,630 --> 02:39:22,319
into the alpha and theta state so really

3736
02:39:26,870 --> 02:39:24,640
i picture a staircase

3737
02:39:29,429 --> 02:39:26,880
that's got 10 steps and it's beautiful

3738
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:29,439
and i'm and i envision my higher self

3739
02:39:34,710 --> 02:39:32,000
like my my absolutely most awake

3740
02:39:36,790 --> 02:39:34,720
enlightened self walking down the

3741
02:39:39,190 --> 02:39:36,800
staircase and each step i take down the

3742
02:39:42,070 --> 02:39:39,200
staircase i i get into a deeper more

3743
02:39:43,750 --> 02:39:42,080
relaxed state and by the bottom

3744
02:39:46,550 --> 02:39:43,760
and by the time we get to the bottom of

3745
02:39:47,429 --> 02:39:46,560
the staircase i imagine this big fluffy

3746
02:39:50,469 --> 02:39:47,439
bed

3747
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:50,479
that's like down comforter and i imagine

3748
02:39:55,110 --> 02:39:53,760
that i just fall deeply deeply into it

3749
02:39:57,830 --> 02:39:55,120
and by the time i

3750
02:40:00,070 --> 02:39:57,840
hit that i just go deep asleep and i'm

3751
02:40:02,710 --> 02:40:00,080
gonna try that tonight you climb through

3752
02:40:05,190 --> 02:40:02,720
the window perfect we'll trade we'll

3753
02:40:07,190 --> 02:40:05,200
trade self-hypnosis i'm gonna go into

3754
02:40:08,710 --> 02:40:07,200
the big fluffy bed that's it i'm gonna

3755
02:40:10,710 --> 02:40:08,720
claw i'm gonna crawl through a window

3756
02:40:12,309 --> 02:40:10,720
and i'll report back after watching

3757
02:40:14,150 --> 02:40:12,319
stranger things

3758
02:40:15,670 --> 02:40:14,160
and crawling through the window both of

3759
02:40:28,469 --> 02:40:15,680
those things

3760
02:40:31,670 --> 02:40:29,910
yeah

3761
02:40:32,630 --> 02:40:31,680
okay i'm not gonna sing it that's not my

3762
02:40:35,190 --> 02:40:32,640
gift

3763
02:40:37,990 --> 02:40:35,200
it's not mine either so

3764
02:40:40,230 --> 02:40:38,000
um last month

3765
02:40:42,790 --> 02:40:40,240
it was so effective i swore i'd never do

3766
02:40:44,309 --> 02:40:42,800
it again this is the truth

3767
02:40:47,590 --> 02:40:44,319
um i

3768
02:40:51,190 --> 02:40:47,600
i read something online about listening

3769
02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:51,200
to rain while you sleep yeah so um and

3770
02:40:58,950 --> 02:40:53,840
we've all heard this but i'd read it so

3771
02:41:00,389 --> 02:40:58,960
um that night i i pulled up on on my uh

3772
02:41:03,670 --> 02:41:00,399
ipad

3773
02:41:04,389 --> 02:41:03,680
thunder and rain 10 hours for sleep

3774
02:41:07,990 --> 02:41:04,399
right

3775
02:41:09,590 --> 02:41:08,000
there was 10 hour video of thunder and

3776
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:09,600
rain

3777
02:41:14,309 --> 02:41:12,240
on everything that i love i turned out

3778
02:41:18,070 --> 02:41:14,319
the light right i got the thunder it

3779
02:41:20,469 --> 02:41:18,080
just started it's just 10 seconds in

3780
02:41:22,469 --> 02:41:20,479
i woke up in the morning

3781
02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:22,479
in the same position

3782
02:41:25,990 --> 02:41:23,520
wow

3783
02:41:28,630 --> 02:41:26,000
i didn't move oh you're gonna have to

3784
02:41:31,830 --> 02:41:28,640
post that link jimmy rule coming out of

3785
02:41:33,429 --> 02:41:31,840
my mouth you know big wet spot on the i

3786
02:41:37,910 --> 02:41:33,439
didn't move

3787
02:41:39,830 --> 02:41:37,920
i mean i slept like a rock oh i want to

3788
02:41:42,230 --> 02:41:39,840
try that i'm always looking for the new

3789
02:41:44,630 --> 02:41:42,240
thing that yeah it was too good it was

3790
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:44,640
too good it was like heroin

3791
02:41:49,349 --> 02:41:46,960
that's amazing i think sometimes with

3792
02:41:50,950 --> 02:41:49,359
those because i've tried all i've tried

3793
02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:50,960
so many of them so please send me that

3794
02:41:56,389 --> 02:41:54,080
link but some of them it's like rain and

3795
02:41:58,230 --> 02:41:56,399
then all of a sudden kaboom and it's

3796
02:42:00,070 --> 02:41:58,240
like it could wake you up like with the

3797
02:42:02,150 --> 02:42:00,080
lightning striking it's like you need

3798
02:42:04,550 --> 02:42:02,160
something that's relatively consistent

3799
02:42:07,190 --> 02:42:04,560
so it becomes white noise right so you

3800
02:42:09,750 --> 02:42:07,200
probably found the perfect track that's

3801
02:42:13,269 --> 02:42:09,760
amazing oh i can't wait to try it it was

3802
02:42:15,750 --> 02:42:13,279
too good it was too good man it's great

3803
02:42:17,030 --> 02:42:15,760
robbed my house and i wouldn't have

3804
02:42:19,510 --> 02:42:17,040
woken up

3805
02:42:21,429 --> 02:42:19,520
like that man that's the goal you want

3806
02:42:24,230 --> 02:42:21,439
to have that and then hopefully you wake

3807
02:42:25,750 --> 02:42:24,240
up with dreams that you that you've been

3808
02:42:27,830 --> 02:42:25,760
able to recall because you went to sleep

3809
02:42:30,309 --> 02:42:27,840
naturally it was it was it was

3810
02:42:31,990 --> 02:42:30,319
remarkable like i said that was too good

3811
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:32,000
you know i it could have been a house

3812
02:42:36,950 --> 02:42:34,479
fire could have been an earthquake hell

3813
02:42:38,550 --> 02:42:36,960
fire just like your shirt

3814
02:42:39,670 --> 02:42:38,560
and i would have slept right through it

3815
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:39,680
it was a

3816
02:42:44,150 --> 02:42:41,760
you know and you know you sleep really

3817
02:42:46,950 --> 02:42:44,160
good when you don't when you wake up in

3818
02:42:50,309 --> 02:42:46,960
the same position you know the remote on

3819
02:42:54,870 --> 02:42:52,230
okay that's a dream so many people

3820
02:42:56,469 --> 02:42:54,880
especially since kovid there's record

3821
02:42:58,870 --> 02:42:56,479
numbers of people that are having a

3822
02:43:01,670 --> 02:42:58,880
difficult time sleeping it is

3823
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:01,680
it is like it's more of an epidemic than

3824
02:43:07,510 --> 02:43:05,359
than than covet is and was and so this

3825
02:43:09,110 --> 02:43:07,520
is great i mean to come up with like a

3826
02:43:10,550 --> 02:43:09,120
list of things that people can do to get

3827
02:43:12,710 --> 02:43:10,560
a better night's sleep i think is one of

3828
02:43:14,950 --> 02:43:12,720
the best things we can do for people so

3829
02:43:16,150 --> 02:43:14,960
this this thing that you just discovered

3830
02:43:18,309 --> 02:43:16,160
is great

3831
02:43:20,230 --> 02:43:18,319
and obviously not drinking all the

3832
02:43:22,790 --> 02:43:20,240
caffeine before you go to sleep but hey

3833
02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:22,800
some people it has the reverse effect

3834
02:43:29,110 --> 02:43:25,840
vitamin b6 and not eating the cheesecake

3835
02:43:31,030 --> 02:43:29,120
unless it's one tiny little piece

3836
02:43:34,309 --> 02:43:31,040
what about melatonin

3837
02:43:35,190 --> 02:43:34,319
oh god yeah melatonin is great no yeah

3838
02:43:37,990 --> 02:43:35,200
yeah

3839
02:43:40,550 --> 02:43:38,000
small doses though right small doses of

3840
02:43:41,429 --> 02:43:40,560
course yeah but i would stay away from

3841
02:43:43,110 --> 02:43:41,439
um

3842
02:43:45,030 --> 02:43:43,120
some of the sleep aids i mean if you

3843
02:43:47,670 --> 02:43:45,040
don't have to like use them only in

3844
02:43:49,670 --> 02:43:47,680
extreme circumstances like like ambien

3845
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:49,680
i've got no nothing against those things

3846
02:43:52,389 --> 02:43:51,600
but i've heard so many stories of people

3847
02:43:57,110 --> 02:43:52,399
that

3848
02:43:59,510 --> 02:43:57,120
sleepwalking

3849
02:44:01,830 --> 02:43:59,520
under the greyhound bus station

3850
02:44:04,710 --> 02:44:01,840
oh my god or like ricky lake who was

3851
02:44:07,190 --> 02:44:04,720
married at the time who who went on and

3852
02:44:09,429 --> 02:44:07,200
she like created a profile online on a

3853
02:44:12,230 --> 02:44:09,439
dating site and had all kinds of like

3854
02:44:14,469 --> 02:44:12,240
and she was sleeping somebody who like

3855
02:44:15,349 --> 02:44:14,479
like hit a bunch of people in her car

3856
02:44:17,110 --> 02:44:15,359
and

3857
02:44:20,550 --> 02:44:17,120
it's crazy

3858
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:20,560
that that that wasn't isolated that was

3859
02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:23,120
happening a lot people driving in their

3860
02:44:28,070 --> 02:44:24,880
cars yeah

3861
02:44:30,150 --> 02:44:28,080
i just while they're dreaming yeah

3862
02:44:31,349 --> 02:44:30,160
that's crazy that's that's crazy town to

3863
02:44:34,790 --> 02:44:31,359
me okay

3864
02:44:36,630 --> 02:44:34,800
um what about and i i i love this

3865
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:36,640
conversation because

3866
02:44:41,110 --> 02:44:39,120
um i am forced and that is you know do

3867
02:44:44,309 --> 02:44:41,120
you dream in black and white or you do

3868
02:44:46,790 --> 02:44:44,319
you dream in color i tend to do both but

3869
02:44:49,190 --> 02:44:46,800
what what does it mean if you have a

3870
02:44:51,269 --> 02:44:49,200
black and white dream versus you know

3871
02:44:52,630 --> 02:44:51,279
something in with full panchromatic

3872
02:44:54,950 --> 02:44:52,640
resonance and

3873
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:54,960
you know uh panavision

3874
02:44:59,030 --> 02:44:55,920
right

3875
02:45:02,070 --> 02:44:59,040
it's it's believed that we always dream

3876
02:45:03,830 --> 02:45:02,080
in color it's just that we

3877
02:45:05,590 --> 02:45:03,840
only sometimes there will be a very

3878
02:45:07,750 --> 02:45:05,600
vivid color that will show up in our

3879
02:45:09,670 --> 02:45:07,760
dream that will that will by contrast

3880
02:45:11,670 --> 02:45:09,680
make everything else look kind of bland

3881
02:45:14,469 --> 02:45:11,680
or black and white but

3882
02:45:15,990 --> 02:45:14,479
we dream the way we see however there's

3883
02:45:17,910 --> 02:45:16,000
there was this study that was done that

3884
02:45:20,870 --> 02:45:17,920
kind of contradicts this so

3885
02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:20,880
um they they said that before the advent

3886
02:45:24,950 --> 02:45:23,279
of color television like way back in the

3887
02:45:28,070 --> 02:45:24,960
olden days when there was just black and

3888
02:45:30,309 --> 02:45:28,080
white television that it was clinically

3889
02:45:32,469 --> 02:45:30,319
proven that people were having more

3890
02:45:34,710 --> 02:45:32,479
black and white dreams

3891
02:45:37,510 --> 02:45:34,720
but there's a there's controversy around

3892
02:45:39,670 --> 02:45:37,520
that because we we ten we see in color

3893
02:45:42,630 --> 02:45:39,680
with our with our eyes and our visual

3894
02:45:44,469 --> 02:45:42,640
cortex is awake while we sleep and it's

3895
02:45:46,230 --> 02:45:44,479
it kind of projects in the same way but

3896
02:45:47,670 --> 02:45:46,240
most people think they dream in black

3897
02:45:49,429 --> 02:45:47,680
and white

3898
02:45:51,030 --> 02:45:49,439
but really they're not they they don't

3899
02:45:52,710 --> 02:45:51,040
it's just that when there is a color

3900
02:45:54,790 --> 02:45:52,720
that does show up it tends to be so

3901
02:45:56,710 --> 02:45:54,800
vivid that it causes everything by

3902
02:45:58,710 --> 02:45:56,720
contrast to seem like it was black and

3903
02:46:00,150 --> 02:45:58,720
white

3904
02:46:00,950 --> 02:46:00,160
i okay

3905
02:46:01,830 --> 02:46:00,960
uh

3906
02:46:08,469 --> 02:46:01,840
i

3907
02:46:11,910 --> 02:46:08,479
gold

3908
02:46:14,710 --> 02:46:11,920
oh oh my god jeremy taylor the great

3909
02:46:16,870 --> 02:46:14,720
great jeremy taylor um he would say that

3910
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:16,880
gold in dreams is

3911
02:46:20,389 --> 02:46:18,319
is um

3912
02:46:22,550 --> 02:46:20,399
a very very spiritual color it means

3913
02:46:25,429 --> 02:46:22,560
that you're connecting with with your

3914
02:46:27,830 --> 02:46:25,439
spirit it's like it's like with the most

3915
02:46:28,870 --> 02:46:27,840
high frequency thing that you can every

3916
02:46:31,750 --> 02:46:28,880
color

3917
02:46:33,990 --> 02:46:31,760
has a certain has a significance and

3918
02:46:35,990 --> 02:46:34,000
when you do remember a color it tends to

3919
02:46:38,550 --> 02:46:36,000
really highlight whatever that thing is

3920
02:46:39,349 --> 02:46:38,560
if it was a guitar that was gold if it

3921
02:46:42,550 --> 02:46:39,359
was

3922
02:46:44,469 --> 02:46:42,560
thing

3923
02:46:46,389 --> 02:46:44,479
is is a message it's almost like from

3924
02:46:48,550 --> 02:46:46,399
the gods for you to pay attention to

3925
02:46:52,469 --> 02:46:48,560
it's like winning the lottery very very

3926
02:46:55,830 --> 02:46:52,479
strange okay like for instance um

3927
02:46:57,429 --> 02:46:55,840
uh the shopping mall yeah so when i'm in

3928
02:47:00,389 --> 02:46:57,439
the shopping mall

3929
02:47:01,590 --> 02:47:00,399
the walls are like gold leaf you know

3930
02:47:03,910 --> 02:47:01,600
wow

3931
02:47:07,190 --> 02:47:03,920
every day the floor everything is kind

3932
02:47:09,590 --> 02:47:07,200
of got that gold

3933
02:47:13,910 --> 02:47:09,600
the atmosphere is gold it's not a gold

3934
02:47:16,389 --> 02:47:13,920
object it's a gold dream wow

3935
02:47:21,190 --> 02:47:16,399
i have this recurring dream

3936
02:47:23,030 --> 02:47:21,200
of going on a cruise ship private um and

3937
02:47:24,630 --> 02:47:23,040
and going to

3938
02:47:25,590 --> 02:47:24,640
another country

3939
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:25,600
and

3940
02:47:34,469 --> 02:47:31,600
it's gold

3941
02:47:36,070 --> 02:47:34,479
the right wow that i'm in the bed the

3942
02:47:37,110 --> 02:47:36,080
thing the walls are the

3943
02:47:41,510 --> 02:47:37,120
gold

3944
02:47:44,469 --> 02:47:41,520
uh so i get to this land the secret land

3945
02:47:46,950 --> 02:47:44,479
um the stair the thing the wall the

3946
02:47:49,590 --> 02:47:46,960
stone gold

3947
02:47:51,670 --> 02:47:49,600
it yeah i dream in gold i don't dream in

3948
02:47:53,830 --> 02:47:51,680
black and white i dream and go

3949
02:47:57,110 --> 02:47:53,840
remember in the jet set formula i talked

3950
02:47:59,269 --> 02:47:57,120
about the standout symbols so the color

3951
02:48:01,269 --> 02:47:59,279
of something would be one of those one

3952
02:48:03,990 --> 02:48:01,279
of those symbols and that just so it

3953
02:48:06,710 --> 02:48:04,000
takes it from being an ordinary

3954
02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:06,720
ship an ordinary whatever it is to

3955
02:48:09,670 --> 02:48:07,840
becoming

3956
02:48:12,630 --> 02:48:09,680
extraordinary it's like it it becomes

3957
02:48:15,429 --> 02:48:12,640
like the fancy word is numinous

3958
02:48:17,590 --> 02:48:15,439
it's like of a spiritual nature

3959
02:48:19,590 --> 02:48:17,600
of a higher nature so if you're shopping

3960
02:48:21,910 --> 02:48:19,600
which is an interesting thing because

3961
02:48:22,790 --> 02:48:21,920
typically shopping in a dream like in a

3962
02:48:25,030 --> 02:48:22,800
mall

3963
02:48:27,110 --> 02:48:25,040
represents commerce it represents often

3964
02:48:29,670 --> 02:48:27,120
we're shopping for things like clothes

3965
02:48:32,070 --> 02:48:29,680
things that are of the ego but if it's

3966
02:48:35,030 --> 02:48:32,080
got gold around it then it kind of feels

3967
02:48:37,590 --> 02:48:35,040
like it's it's i it's it's i would say

3968
02:48:40,230 --> 02:48:37,600
it's like you're shopping for which is a

3969
02:48:43,269 --> 02:48:40,240
metaphor for having being at choice

3970
02:48:45,590 --> 02:48:43,279
with with your spiritual identity and

3971
02:48:47,429 --> 02:48:45,600
what are you buying into

3972
02:48:49,110 --> 02:48:47,439
like what are you believing what are you

3973
02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:49,120
putting your energy

3974
02:48:55,190 --> 02:48:51,680
into and and what do you um what are you

3975
02:48:56,710 --> 02:48:55,200
paying for to get so it's it feels like

3976
02:48:59,110 --> 02:48:56,720
it all of a sudden elevates it from

3977
02:49:00,870 --> 02:48:59,120
being kind of an ordinary ego level

3978
02:49:03,590 --> 02:49:00,880
dream to being something on a much

3979
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:03,600
higher level yeah i'm not shopping i'm

3980
02:49:06,070 --> 02:49:04,800
lost

3981
02:49:15,110 --> 02:49:06,080
yeah

3982
02:49:17,990 --> 02:49:15,120
before my mom passed uh five years ago

3983
02:49:19,349 --> 02:49:18,000
um i dreamt about her all the time

3984
02:49:20,950 --> 02:49:19,359
and

3985
02:49:23,269 --> 02:49:20,960
uh

3986
02:49:25,429 --> 02:49:23,279
about all kinds of things right

3987
02:49:28,309 --> 02:49:25,439
most of them unresolved issues whatever

3988
02:49:31,110 --> 02:49:28,319
so you know you have those dreams

3989
02:49:35,590 --> 02:49:31,120
since she has passed

3990
02:49:36,870 --> 02:49:35,600
not once i have tried to dream about her

3991
02:49:39,429 --> 02:49:36,880
i can't

3992
02:49:41,269 --> 02:49:39,439
and i hear you know we you know well you

3993
02:49:42,790 --> 02:49:41,279
know my relatives visit me in my dreams

3994
02:49:43,670 --> 02:49:42,800
it's not mine

3995
02:49:44,389 --> 02:49:43,680
right

3996
02:49:49,030 --> 02:49:44,399
and

3997
02:49:51,269 --> 02:49:49,040
dreaming about my mom

3998
02:49:53,510 --> 02:49:51,279
why is is it just because is it

3999
02:49:55,269 --> 02:49:53,520
something simple you know she's now

4000
02:49:57,030 --> 02:49:55,279
passed and

4001
02:49:58,630 --> 02:49:57,040
not necessarily yes and

4002
02:50:02,150 --> 02:49:58,640
yes and no i mean

4003
02:50:04,550 --> 02:50:02,160
there's so on one level we have so many

4004
02:50:06,309 --> 02:50:04,560
dreams we have five to nine dreams every

4005
02:50:08,469 --> 02:50:06,319
single night and most of us if we're

4006
02:50:10,150 --> 02:50:08,479
lucky we'll remember one of those so

4007
02:50:11,830 --> 02:50:10,160
that means that there could be mom

4008
02:50:13,750 --> 02:50:11,840
coming in every night it's just that's

4009
02:50:16,710 --> 02:50:13,760
not the dream that you're remembering

4010
02:50:19,349 --> 02:50:16,720
also remember our dreams are symbolic so

4011
02:50:22,070 --> 02:50:19,359
somebody can be coming in just like the

4012
02:50:25,269 --> 02:50:22,080
just like brian that i had the dream

4013
02:50:27,830 --> 02:50:25,279
about the mosaic with it he didn't show

4014
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:27,840
up in the dream but mosaic showed up in

4015
02:50:32,389 --> 02:50:29,920
the dream so that was symbolic that

4016
02:50:35,110 --> 02:50:32,399
something symbolic that connected to him

4017
02:50:37,030 --> 02:50:35,120
so think about a couple of things that

4018
02:50:38,309 --> 02:50:37,040
that make you think of your mom like

4019
02:50:41,590 --> 02:50:38,319
apple pie

4020
02:50:43,990 --> 02:50:41,600
or or like sunday dinner or

4021
02:50:45,349 --> 02:50:44,000
um i don't know first day of school or

4022
02:50:47,830 --> 02:50:45,359
something like some of your favorite

4023
02:50:49,349 --> 02:50:47,840
memories think about those as symbols so

4024
02:50:51,510 --> 02:50:49,359
if those things show up in your dream

4025
02:50:53,269 --> 02:50:51,520
you could consider that that is your mom

4026
02:50:54,790 --> 02:50:53,279
communicating to you sometimes it's not

4027
02:50:56,870 --> 02:50:54,800
just literal

4028
02:50:59,269 --> 02:50:56,880
and and one thing we can do because i

4029
02:51:01,510 --> 02:50:59,279
think the people that we're connected to

4030
02:51:03,349 --> 02:51:01,520
heart and soul our family members i

4031
02:51:05,590 --> 02:51:03,359
believe that they they are part of our

4032
02:51:08,070 --> 02:51:05,600
lives and yes they do move on but i

4033
02:51:09,830 --> 02:51:08,080
think they they also come back around

4034
02:51:10,950 --> 02:51:09,840
and sometimes we can do a very

4035
02:51:13,349 --> 02:51:10,960
deliberate

4036
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:13,359
request that is that has no strings

4037
02:51:17,670 --> 02:51:15,200
attached before we go to sleep we can

4038
02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:17,680
maybe light a candle or have something a

4039
02:51:22,630 --> 02:51:19,680
token like some one of their a piece of

4040
02:51:24,469 --> 02:51:22,640
their jewelry or a photo of them

4041
02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:24,479
by our bed stand and we can just simply

4042
02:51:27,910 --> 02:51:25,279
say

4043
02:51:29,510 --> 02:51:27,920
if you're available to god i would so

4044
02:51:31,750 --> 02:51:29,520
love to connect with you in my dreams

4045
02:51:34,550 --> 02:51:31,760
tonight and i'll do my part to remember

4046
02:51:36,469 --> 02:51:34,560
the dream and if and when you feel like

4047
02:51:38,309 --> 02:51:36,479
you can i would love some kind of a

4048
02:51:41,269 --> 02:51:38,319
visitation some kind of a message from

4049
02:51:43,429 --> 02:51:41,279
you and have it be as simple as that and

4050
02:51:46,150 --> 02:51:43,439
just be in a state of gratitude

4051
02:51:48,070 --> 02:51:46,160
sometimes the resistance the like the

4052
02:51:50,630 --> 02:51:48,080
need for it or the desire for it can

4053
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:50,640
sometimes be like a resistant energy

4054
02:51:55,670 --> 02:51:53,520
that pushes it away in fact sometimes

4055
02:51:57,269 --> 02:51:55,680
deceased relatives will show up in the

4056
02:51:59,670 --> 02:51:57,279
dreams of people

4057
02:52:00,469 --> 02:51:59,680
in like a in our circle but not

4058
02:52:02,790 --> 02:52:00,479
necessarily

4059
02:52:04,469 --> 02:52:02,800
us because there's too much

4060
02:52:05,910 --> 02:52:04,479
importance that we put on it but it

4061
02:52:07,110 --> 02:52:05,920
doesn't mean that they're not around it

4062
02:52:09,030 --> 02:52:07,120
doesn't mean they don't love us doesn't

4063
02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:09,040
mean your mom doesn't love you like

4064
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:11,439
crazy and isn't trying in some way shape

4065
02:52:16,469 --> 02:52:14,000
or form to stay connected with you so i

4066
02:52:19,590 --> 02:52:16,479
think you asking the question putting it

4067
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:19,600
out there with no strings attached is a

4068
02:52:22,950 --> 02:52:21,520
wonderful invitation for there to be

4069
02:52:24,790 --> 02:52:22,960
possibly something that will come

4070
02:52:27,910 --> 02:52:24,800
through in the next few nights

4071
02:52:29,590 --> 02:52:27,920
so be attuned to that now yeah i think

4072
02:52:31,750 --> 02:52:29,600
she you know i walk around the house and

4073
02:52:33,990 --> 02:52:31,760
stuff you know drops and hits me in the

4074
02:52:36,389 --> 02:52:34,000
head all the time so hello

4075
02:52:38,070 --> 02:52:36,399
that's valid that's it i mean we don't

4076
02:52:39,830 --> 02:52:38,080
it doesn't have to be an exact dream it

4077
02:52:41,349 --> 02:52:39,840
could be a song that comes on the radio

4078
02:52:42,950 --> 02:52:41,359
it could be a synchronicity a bumper

4079
02:52:44,630 --> 02:52:42,960
sticker we see

4080
02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:44,640
now uh

4081
02:52:48,950 --> 02:52:46,240
uh what about okay

4082
02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:48,960
hold on for a second um i i want to go

4083
02:52:54,070 --> 02:52:51,279
back to black and white versus color

4084
02:52:56,070 --> 02:52:54,080
yeah yeah um but i do dream in black and

4085
02:52:58,870 --> 02:52:56,080
white though not everything is not

4086
02:53:02,070 --> 02:52:58,880
everything is gold right

4087
02:53:03,990 --> 02:53:02,080
and my black and white i am

4088
02:53:05,429 --> 02:53:04,000
and i'm asking this for the audience

4089
02:53:07,590 --> 02:53:05,439
because i'm sure

4090
02:53:08,790 --> 02:53:07,600
this is like a universal thing i'm not

4091
02:53:11,349 --> 02:53:08,800
the only one

4092
02:53:14,309 --> 02:53:11,359
my black and white stuff is

4093
02:53:17,429 --> 02:53:14,319
from when i was like

4094
02:53:19,269 --> 02:53:17,439
10 years old 15 minutes

4095
02:53:22,230 --> 02:53:19,279
i don't dream in black and white about

4096
02:53:27,349 --> 02:53:24,710
it's it's always when i'm young

4097
02:53:29,349 --> 02:53:27,359
right well that can be so anything like

4098
02:53:31,349 --> 02:53:29,359
black and white those are also important

4099
02:53:33,190 --> 02:53:31,359
symbols so if you are having a

4100
02:53:35,590 --> 02:53:33,200
legitimate black and white dream it

4101
02:53:37,670 --> 02:53:35,600
could represent that you're back in time

4102
02:53:40,070 --> 02:53:37,680
it could represent even

4103
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:40,080
the the metaphor of black and white

4104
02:53:44,469 --> 02:53:42,000
thinking when we're in our younger days

4105
02:53:46,710 --> 02:53:44,479
it was things were very delineated this

4106
02:53:49,110 --> 02:53:46,720
is good this is bad this is right this

4107
02:53:50,870 --> 02:53:49,120
is wrong this is us versus them so

4108
02:53:53,510 --> 02:53:50,880
there's some of that that's going on and

4109
02:53:55,510 --> 02:53:53,520
it could be i mean and also black and

4110
02:53:56,550 --> 02:53:55,520
white is devoid of

4111
02:54:01,110 --> 02:53:56,560
color

4112
02:54:04,150 --> 02:54:01,120
tends to represent

4113
02:54:06,230 --> 02:54:04,160
vibrancy and passion um

4114
02:54:08,469 --> 02:54:06,240
black and white could represent it feels

4115
02:54:11,110 --> 02:54:08,479
like film noir to me like if there's

4116
02:54:14,070 --> 02:54:11,120
like a detective kind of a yeah sepia

4117
02:54:15,670 --> 02:54:14,080
tone right right so it could be all of

4118
02:54:17,750 --> 02:54:15,680
those things so you ask yourself what

4119
02:54:19,349 --> 02:54:17,760
does this mean to me it's not

4120
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:19,359
necessarily what does it mean

4121
02:54:23,750 --> 02:54:21,040
generically across the board what does

4122
02:54:27,750 --> 02:54:23,760
black and white mean to you jimmy

4123
02:54:31,590 --> 02:54:27,760
uh it's a it's the name of my new show

4124
02:54:38,630 --> 02:54:34,630
but i've thought about this a lot that

4125
02:54:41,269 --> 02:54:38,640
you know i have no no problems

4126
02:54:44,150 --> 02:54:41,279
going full color i mean

4127
02:54:45,510 --> 02:54:44,160
too much color right that's easy

4128
02:54:48,230 --> 02:54:45,520
but the

4129
02:54:50,150 --> 02:54:48,240
the black and white dreams seem to be

4130
02:54:51,990 --> 02:54:50,160
well historical is the right word but

4131
02:54:53,190 --> 02:54:52,000
also more serious

4132
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:53,200
right

4133
02:54:56,309 --> 02:54:54,880
there's there's a more so like pay

4134
02:54:57,670 --> 02:54:56,319
attention here

4135
02:54:59,429 --> 02:54:57,680
oh

4136
02:55:01,429 --> 02:54:59,439
so this is why it's important to track

4137
02:55:03,429 --> 02:55:01,439
your own dreams so that you can start to

4138
02:55:04,950 --> 02:55:03,439
notice the themes and the patterns

4139
02:55:06,550 --> 02:55:04,960
because that wouldn't necessarily be

4140
02:55:08,630 --> 02:55:06,560
across the board for everybody but if

4141
02:55:09,910 --> 02:55:08,640
you can tell when it's a black and white

4142
02:55:12,150 --> 02:55:09,920
dream you know that it's something to

4143
02:55:14,309 --> 02:55:12,160
pay attention to and take seriously it's

4144
02:55:17,590 --> 02:55:14,319
not frivolous it's not light and fluffy

4145
02:55:19,910 --> 02:55:17,600
it's like this has got gravitas to it so

4146
02:55:21,429 --> 02:55:19,920
i mean that's that's that's a wonderful

4147
02:55:23,190 --> 02:55:21,439
example of what i was talking about

4148
02:55:26,950 --> 02:55:23,200
earlier so good for you

4149
02:55:29,190 --> 02:55:26,960
now uh uh one last uh question tonight

4150
02:55:31,110 --> 02:55:29,200
thank you this is man this was the best

4151
02:55:33,030 --> 02:55:31,120
show ever

4152
02:55:33,830 --> 02:55:33,040
what about deja vu

4153
02:55:37,670 --> 02:55:33,840
and

4154
02:55:39,510 --> 02:55:37,680
um

4155
02:55:40,469 --> 02:55:39,520
i feel

4156
02:55:43,269 --> 02:55:40,479
that

4157
02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:43,279
i i have deja vu's all the time i stop i

4158
02:55:50,790 --> 02:55:49,040
enjoy them i pay attention yes but i do

4159
02:55:53,190 --> 02:55:50,800
more times than not

4160
02:55:54,150 --> 02:55:53,200
feel that the deja vu was also part of a

4161
02:55:55,590 --> 02:55:54,160
dream

4162
02:55:57,590 --> 02:55:55,600
and then you're what you know we just

4163
02:56:00,309 --> 02:55:57,600
talked about the premonition aspect of

4164
02:56:02,230 --> 02:56:00,319
this yeah yeah i'm having the deja vu

4165
02:56:03,910 --> 02:56:02,240
but i think i dreamed this a few times

4166
02:56:06,550 --> 02:56:03,920
five years ago

4167
02:56:09,110 --> 02:56:06,560
and and now it's now it's happening in

4168
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:09,120
real time but i'm awake

4169
02:56:13,190 --> 02:56:10,800
right exactly now

4170
02:56:15,030 --> 02:56:13,200
what's the deal is there a connection

4171
02:56:17,750 --> 02:56:15,040
yeah i think that i think it's all of

4172
02:56:19,590 --> 02:56:17,760
those things and i think that we need to

4173
02:56:22,309 --> 02:56:19,600
like ask ourselves what it means to us

4174
02:56:24,870 --> 02:56:22,319
but from my perspective on some level

4175
02:56:27,030 --> 02:56:24,880
it's sort of like a glitch in the matrix

4176
02:56:29,590 --> 02:56:27,040
it's like whoa oh like that it's not

4177
02:56:31,349 --> 02:56:29,600
supposed to happen like when we're

4178
02:56:32,870 --> 02:56:31,359
we're online

4179
02:56:35,110 --> 02:56:32,880
plugged in

4180
02:56:36,710 --> 02:56:35,120
in our ordinary consciousness it's

4181
02:56:38,389 --> 02:56:36,720
supposed to go a certain way but then

4182
02:56:39,910 --> 02:56:38,399
there's this kind of like a flickering

4183
02:56:41,269 --> 02:56:39,920
and there's sort of a portal that opens

4184
02:56:43,510 --> 02:56:41,279
and all of a sudden we're outside of

4185
02:56:45,269 --> 02:56:43,520
time we're out of like our ordinary

4186
02:56:46,950 --> 02:56:45,279
reality and we're like wait past present

4187
02:56:49,190 --> 02:56:46,960
future it's bleeding

4188
02:56:51,910 --> 02:56:49,200
it's it's a bleeding of sorts that is

4189
02:56:53,830 --> 02:56:51,920
like it blends things and it's so it's

4190
02:56:55,750 --> 02:56:53,840
kind of like we tap into dream

4191
02:56:58,630 --> 02:56:55,760
consciousness while we're awake it's

4192
02:57:01,030 --> 02:56:58,640
kind of a it's a very special phenomenon

4193
02:57:03,590 --> 02:57:01,040
i would say at the very least

4194
02:57:05,670 --> 02:57:03,600
it's it's a moment to ask yourself like

4195
02:57:06,950 --> 02:57:05,680
notice where you're at notice who you

4196
02:57:09,590 --> 02:57:06,960
who you're with

4197
02:57:11,670 --> 02:57:09,600
consider it a burning bush of sorts that

4198
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:11,680
you don't have to know exactly why and

4199
02:57:15,750 --> 02:57:13,920
what it means but consider that there's

4200
02:57:17,830 --> 02:57:15,760
importance consider that it's pointing

4201
02:57:20,230 --> 02:57:17,840
to something something for you to be

4202
02:57:23,030 --> 02:57:20,240
aware of and awake to i mean some people

4203
02:57:25,269 --> 02:57:23,040
think it's it's about um oh i can't

4204
02:57:28,790 --> 02:57:25,279
think of what it's called when you

4205
02:57:30,870 --> 02:57:28,800
um when you have seizures um but it's

4206
02:57:32,550 --> 02:57:30,880
but it's not necessarily related to

4207
02:57:34,870 --> 02:57:32,560
whatever that thing is called that i'm

4208
02:57:37,910 --> 02:57:34,880
glitching out on speaking of glitching

4209
02:57:40,630 --> 02:57:37,920
but it's it's important in my purse from

4210
02:57:42,630 --> 02:57:40,640
my perspective it's special

4211
02:57:44,790 --> 02:57:42,640
just like being lucid it's like being

4212
02:57:46,710 --> 02:57:44,800
lucid in a dream it's like something to

4213
02:57:52,070 --> 02:57:46,720
pay attention to

4214
02:57:55,990 --> 02:57:54,070
thank you jimmy this was so fun and the

4215
02:57:57,670 --> 02:57:56,000
time has flown

4216
02:57:59,510 --> 02:57:57,680
flown by thank you all right all right

4217
02:58:00,870 --> 02:57:59,520
let's go for another three hours tell

4218
02:58:03,590 --> 02:58:00,880
them okay let's do it let's do a

4219
02:58:05,830 --> 02:58:03,600
marathon tell dana um listen i'm a part

4220
02:58:08,309 --> 02:58:05,840
of your newsletter and it's fantastic

4221
02:58:10,070 --> 02:58:08,319
and and i want everybody to go and sign

4222
02:58:11,670 --> 02:58:10,080
up for that so please tell them how to

4223
02:58:14,469 --> 02:58:11,680
do it because

4224
02:58:16,389 --> 02:58:14,479
you are always doing stuff i mean a

4225
02:58:19,190 --> 02:58:16,399
couple of times a week i'm i'm looking

4226
02:58:21,110 --> 02:58:19,200
at your thing and i'm you you're always

4227
02:58:23,190 --> 02:58:21,120
doing something great

4228
02:58:25,429 --> 02:58:23,200
so how can everybody stay in touch and

4229
02:58:26,870 --> 02:58:25,439
how can they sign up for the newsletter

4230
02:58:29,750 --> 02:58:26,880
they can go to my website

4231
02:58:31,830 --> 02:58:29,760
kellysullivanwalden.com

4232
02:58:36,309 --> 02:58:31,840
and if that's too hard to spell they can

4233
02:58:37,830 --> 02:58:36,319
go to i had the strangestdream.com

4234
02:58:40,469 --> 02:58:37,840
and sign up there and you can get some

4235
02:58:42,389 --> 02:58:40,479
free dream gifts for me and

4236
02:58:45,349 --> 02:58:42,399
they people my my new book is available

4237
02:58:48,710 --> 02:58:45,359
for pre-order on amazon or wherever you

4238
02:58:53,590 --> 02:58:48,720
get books online it's called a crisis is

4239
02:58:56,790 --> 02:58:55,830
the art of transforming the tragic into

4240
02:58:58,469 --> 02:58:56,800
magic

4241
02:59:01,590 --> 02:58:58,479
you're the best kelly give my best to

4242
02:59:03,030 --> 02:59:01,600
dana tell him i said yo i will big hug

4243
02:59:04,710 --> 02:59:03,040
to you jimmy church

4244
02:59:07,750 --> 02:59:04,720
i love you

4245
02:59:09,349 --> 02:59:07,760
love you more

4246
02:59:11,670 --> 02:59:09,359
crawl through the window tonight i'm

4247
02:59:13,030 --> 02:59:11,680
going to you go down the stairs i'm

4248
02:59:14,630 --> 02:59:13,040
going down the stairs

4249
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:14,640
some peanut butter on top of your

4250
02:59:17,830 --> 02:59:15,680
cheesecake

4251
02:59:20,389 --> 02:59:17,840
kelly sullivan walden thank you so much

4252
02:59:22,469 --> 02:59:20,399
kelly enjoy your night and go dream

4253
02:59:25,830 --> 02:59:22,479
i'll talk to you bye

4254
02:59:28,630 --> 02:59:25,840
bye what a perfect show that is a

4255
02:59:31,429 --> 02:59:28,640
perfect show right there kelly sullivan

4256
02:59:33,750 --> 02:59:31,439
walden and i'm serious i think we need

4257
02:59:36,309 --> 02:59:33,760
to do that once a month just just come

4258
02:59:38,389 --> 02:59:36,319
in and and lay it all out what a great

4259
02:59:41,030 --> 02:59:38,399
show i want to remind everybody tomorrow

4260
02:59:44,710 --> 02:59:41,040
is fader night it's open lines all night

4261
02:59:48,429 --> 02:59:44,720
long your calls your conversation you

4262
02:59:51,230 --> 02:59:48,439
can go right now over to kylie sullivan

4263
02:59:53,429 --> 02:59:51,240
walden.com it's easy

4264
02:59:57,510 --> 02:59:53,439
kellysullivanwalden.com the links are

4265
03:00:00,309 --> 02:59:57,520
below her newsletter is fantastic so go

4266
03:00:02,150 --> 03:00:00,319
and sign up for that and there you go

4267
03:00:04,550 --> 03:00:02,160
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4268
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4269
03:00:10,230 --> 03:00:07,520
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4270
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4271
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4272
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4273
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4275
03:00:24,790 --> 03:00:23,359
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03:00:28,469 --> 03:00:26,880
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4278
03:00:30,070 --> 03:00:28,479
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4279
03:00:31,429 --> 03:00:30,080
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4280
03:00:32,950 --> 03:00:31,439
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4281
03:00:35,030 --> 03:00:32,960
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4282
03:00:37,190 --> 03:00:35,040
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4283
03:00:39,750 --> 03:00:37,200
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4284
03:00:48,750 --> 03:00:39,760
everybody to be safe

4285
03:01:20,650 --> 03:00:54,800
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4286
03:01:29,620 --> 03:01:20,660
bye